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Number 144 - March, 2007

Part III

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Lord of War (Blu-ray) Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Blu-ray)
American Psycho (Blu-ray) Chicken Little (Blu-ray)

Number 144 - March, 2007 - Part I

Number 144 - March, 2007 - Part II

Number 144 - March, 2007 - Part III

Movie Reviews Index

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Lionsgate

2004, Color, Rated R, 1 Hr 40 min

 

Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1

1080p

 

English DTS-ES 6.1

English Dolby Digital EX 5.1

 

Directed by James Wan


Starring: Cary Elwes, Danny Glover, Monica Potter

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Strong

Sex

No

Language

Yes

"Saw" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

Two men wake up at opposite sides of a dirty, disused bathroom, chained by their ankles to pipes. Between them lies a dead man loosely clutching a hand-held tape player and a handgun. Each finds a tape in his back pocket, and they play the tapes.

One is threatened, the other isn't. But they have a task: One must kill the other by 6:00, or his wife and daughter will die. They find hacksaws in a toilet, and try to cut the chains, but it doesn't work. They are the two newest victims of the Jigsaw Killer.

Commentary

I was really let down when Saw first came to the theaters. The trailers really made this one look like it could be a terrifying serial killer movie in line with something like Se7en. Unfortunately, it only teeters on what I think it could have been and backs off from the level I think it advertises at.

The formula is quite good though, and I understand why it was followed up with two sequels already. I just wish it would have had the gumption to deliver terror all the way.

Technical

The HD presentation is a nice step up from what I saw on standard DVD, but not quite up there with the better HD presentations on the market. Detail is probably the highlight of the transfer, but contrast and depth are a bit lacking. Darker scenes tend to be on the softer side and can get a bit noisy. This isn't a very old film so I was expecting a bit more. Since this was shot on a rather meager budget, production limitations may be more of the issue when it comes to the visual style.

The audio side fares far better than the video. Lionsgate has included a full bitrate DTS-ES discrete soundtrack, and it is very aggressive. Like most horror films, there is a lot of dynamic effects that go from quiet to super loud to shock you, and the low end of the soundtrack is very ominous. The film's music is on the harder side and blends in well with the ambience of the film.

Extras

No real extras on this one.

- Kris Deering -

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Lionsgate

2005, Color, Unrated, 1 Hr 35 min

 

Aspect Ratio: 1.78:1

1080p

 

English DTS-HD 5.1 ES Matrix

English Dolby Digital EX 5.1

 

Directed by Darren Lynn Bousman


Starring Donnie Wahlberg, Franky G, Glenn Plummer

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Strong

Sex

No

Language

Yes

"Saw II" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

When detective Eric Matthews is called to a crime scene of a victim of Jigsaw, he finds a lead to the place where he is hidden. Once there, he realizes that Jigsaw trapped his son Daniel Matthews with three women and four men in a shelter, and they are inhaling a lethal nerve gas. If they do not use an antidote within two hours, they will die.

Eric follows with increasing desperation the death of each member of the group in TV monitors, while trying to convince Jigsaw to release his son.

Commentary

While I didn't think Saw II was a great film, I was glad that the director decided to go a slightly different route with it rather than just carbon copying the first film like so many horror franchises do. This sequel instead brings the bad guy to the forefront and lets the main character determine what will or will not happen.

The people trapped in the house of death are killed in rather clever ways and are at the mercy of the pride of the protagonist. While this film still doesn't raise up from the B-Horror level, it is good enough to separate itself a bit from the pack.

Technical

This transfer is a bit of a letdown. There are times when it looks REALLY good, with solid detail and a very HD feel, but there are also times when you almost have to cringe at how bad it looks. Soft, flat, washed out, and just plain bad.

I was really surprised just how much the visual presentation fluctuates from scene to scene. Dimension at times is really good, only to have the next scene look like its from a B-grade DVD presentation. I don't know if this is a limitation of the master or what, but I hope Lionsgate revisits this one in the future and gives us a more consistent presentation.

Since this is a more recent Lionsgate release, they've included a DTS-HD soundtrack that decodes to DTS-ES Matrix. Like the first film, this is a very aggressive mix with plenty of low end goodness and rich atmosphere. It plays by the numbers as a horror film: solid moody and atmospheric horror soundtrack and plenty of pop up dynamic scares. Surrounds are used aggressively to put you in the film, and I liked the panning effects offered by the rear channels. While I wouldn't call it the best soundtrack I've heard in a horror film, it is one of the better ones.

Extras

Extras include two feature commentaries, a documentary on the film, a production feature, and some interviews.

- Kris Deering -

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Lionsgate

2006, Color, Unrated, 1 Hr 53 min

 

Aspect Ratio: 1.78:1

1080p

 

English DTS-HD 5.1

English Dolby Digital EX 5.1

 

Directed by Darren Lynn Bousman


Starring 
Tobin Bell, Shawnee Smith, Angus Macfadyen

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Strong

Sex

Nudity

Language

Strong

"Saw III" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

A 30 year old doctor by the name of Lynn Denlon is kidnapped and locked in a room with no other than Amanda and Jigsaw. The cancer-ridden Jigsaw - who is on the brink of death - tells Lynn that she must keep him alive for as long as it takes Jeff to complete one of his own games. Lynn must race against the clock of Jigsaw's own ticking heart.

Commentary

Saw III continues right where the sequel left off, almost literally. Fans of the series will probably appreciate this one, as it fleshes out Amanda's character more and shows the budding relationship between her and Jigsaw. Of course, it is intermingled with games that are full of grotesque and elaborate tortures, but what did you expect from a Saw movie? Overall, I liked this a bit better than the sequel, but it still isn't what I would call "great" horror.

Technical

By far the best looking of the bunch so far in this series. Saw III is a very new film, and the transfer was obviously made from a recent master. This is a stylized film, so the condition of the image varies quite a bit. At times it can be quite noisy, to lend to the atmosphere, while other times it is quite clean and dimensional. Blacks are raised a bit, which hurts depth at times, but detail overall is never really lacking.

The beginning of the film had A LOT of banding, but thankfully, the rest of the film is devoid of the issue. While I don't think I would ever use this to show off HD video, it definitely a step up from what you find on DVD.

Like the two films before it, Saw III is a VERY dynamic soundtrack. Like any good horror film, the entire soundstage is alive, and discrete noises placed around the room help add to the suspense of the film. The DTS-HD mix is flagged for DTS-ES Matrix, so you get some very nice panning effects across the rear soundstage if you're room can support it. Bass extension is deep, and this soundtrack can get quite loud at times. If it wasn't for the content, this would be a great disc to show off a sound system with.

Extras

No less than three separate commentaries are included with this release. You also get a feature on the character Amanda, a feature on writing the story, and some deleted scenes.

- Kris Deering -

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Warner

2006, Color, Rated PG, 1 Hr 48 min

 

Aspect Ratio: 2.40:1

1080p

 

English Dolby TrueHD 5.1

English DD+ 5.1 EX

French DD+ 5.1 EX

Spanish DD+ 5.1 EX

 

Directed by George Miller


Starring: Elijah Wood, Robin Williams, Brittany Murphy, Hugh Jackman, Nicole Kidman

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Mild

Sex

Innuendo

Language

No

"Happy Feet" (HD DVD Hybrid)

Synopsis

**Only the HD DVD release was received for review. We will update with the Blu-ray review if and when we receive a copy for review**

In the cold land of Antarctica, the Emperor Penguins each show their true love with a special heart song of their own that expresses their very being. However, the misfit Mumble cannot sing, but instead has an extraordinary talent to tap dance with almost magical energy and expression.

Nevertheless, the deeply conformist leadership of the colony fearfully blames the young penguin's unorthodox ways for the lean fishing that threatens them all. Defiant in the face of unjust rejection, Mumble and his friends set out to find the true cause of the famine. Through the motley crew's trials and perils, Mumble learns many things about his frozen world, not the least of which being that his toe tapping talent may be what he needs to save his fellow penguins.

Commentary

I was skeptical about this one from seeing the trailers. Sure the animation looked incredible and I always enjoy a musical, but it was hard to tell what kind of film this would really be.

Happy Feet is a musical, and the sheer amount of medleys you'll find in it is staggering. But this is also a film with some messages. Intolerance is dealt with, with the older penguins sticking to their ways and casting the young lead out, and environmental issues are brought in with the humans diminishing the fish supply the penguins need to survive. This detracts a bit from the film in the end because it starts off one way and is very family oriented, only to switch gears in the end and try and make a political statement. Because of this I am of mixed opinion. I love the musical nature of the film, and the comedy is great. Production value and animation are almost without peer. But I think a lot of the heart of the film gets slightly bogged down toward the end because of the politics.

Technical

You'll notice that I gave this one a 5 for video. Although there is the slightest amount of banding in some of the background skies, which has become almost a staple of animation lately, this transfer is absolutely breathtaking. The amount of detail and depth that are displayed through most of this presentation is almost without equal. Colors are striking and contrast is absolutely stunning. This is a film that needs to be shown in HD to truly be appreciated. My jaw was on almost permanently on the floor throughout this whole movie. This is a transfer that can easily showcase the best display devices on the market, as well as help distinguish which can or can't resolve the fullest resolution, contrast, and depth HD can provide.

Warner has included a Dolby TrueHD lossless soundtrack with this release, and it is a winner. The musical numbers sound incredible with rich detail and presence. But the sound design is as good if not better. This is a VERY aggressive soundtrack, with some of the richest and lowest bass I've heard in a long time. There are several scenes in this film that could be used for system demonstrations that will put the entire system to test. Infrasonics are incredible at times with my back getting a great massage from the low end. Surrounds are used aggressively to put you into the harsh environment of Antarctica, and imaging is impeccable. I can't think of a single bad thing to say here, a reference soundtrack from top to bottom.

Extras

Extras are the same on both releases, except that the HD DVD has the SD version on the flipside of the disc. Features include two new sequences from the film, a private dance lesson with Savion Glover, two music videos, and a cartoon.

- Kris Deering -

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Lionsgate

2005, Color, Rated R, 2 Hours 1 Minutes

 

Aspect Ratio: 2.40:1

1080p

 

English DTS-ES 6.1

English Dolby Digital 5.1 EX

 

Starring: Nicolas Cage, Jared Leto, Ethan Hawke, Ian Holm, Bridget Moynahan

 

Director: Andrew Niccol

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Strong

Sex

Yes

Language

Stong

"Lord of War" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

This film charts the rise and fall of Yuri Orlov, from his early days in the early 1980s in Little Odessa, selling guns to mobsters in his local neighborhood, to his ascension through the decade of excess and indulgence into the early 90s, where he forms a business partnership with an African warlord and his psychotic son.

The film also charts his relationship through the years with his younger brother, his marriage to a famous model, his relentless pursuit by a determined federal agent, and his inner demons that sway between his drive for success and the immorality of what he does.

Commentary

I'd been hoping to see this one for quite sometime now, but have never gotten around to it. The trailers and word of mouth on it were pretty good, and I generally like most of Cage's work that is on the more serious side. This is a decent war thriller that covers the rise of a Ukrainian gun runner who starts small time and works his way to the top during the end of the Cold War.

The film is narrated by Cage and gives unsettling details of the process and the gains. At a minimum it is a very interesting look at what goes on in this lifestyle and the means they have to procure their product. Definitely worth a viewing if you haven't seen it already.

Technical

This is one of the earlier Lionsgate releases and is quite good except for a few nitpicks. Detail is exceptionally good through most of the film, as is color balance. I was very impressed with the amount of fine detail that is prevalent through pretty much the entire film. Contrast is exceptional at times and helps with the dimensionality of the film. There is a low level of noise in the image, probably film grain, but it distracts a bit on the smaller object detail at times. I also saw some obvious compression noise in one sequence where it looks like the encoder ran out of head room and detail was lost. Overall though this is a pretty good looking transfer with little to complain about.

The film's soundtrack is presented in full bitrate DTS-ES or Dolby Digital EX. The soundtrack is very dynamic, with ample use of the subwoofer and surround channels. The main soundstage has a very natural sense of presence, and I enjoyed the way the director decided to make some of the sound design a character of the film. Surrounds are used aggressively for both directional effects and ambience, and really lend to the excitement of the film. Overall, a splendid effort from Lionsgate despite the lack of any next generation audio support.

Extras

No extras are included on this one.

- Kris Deering -

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Lionsgate

2000, Color, Unrated, 1 Hr 42 mins.

 

Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1

1080p

 

English DTS HD 5.1

English Dolby Digital EX 5.1

 

Directed by Mary Harron


Starring Christian Bale, Willem Dafoe, Jared Leto, Josh Lucas, Chloe Sevigny, Reese Witherspoon

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Strong

Sex

Strong

Language

Yes

"American Psycho" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

A wealthy New York investment banking executive hides his alternate psychopathic personality from his co-workers and friends as he escalates deeper into his illogical, gratuitous fantasies.

Commentary

I am a sucker for films like this. I love rich characters, and Patrick Bateman is REALLY rich. But he is also despicable. I read this book shortly after seeing the movie to see what all the hoopla was about. If anyone out there thinks this film is disturbing, it is like a G-rated version compared to the insanity the book delivers. You can really appreciate what Bale brings to the role after reading the book (which I don't recommend if you don't have a strong stomach). The director did a good job of toning the story down a bit but still conveying the insanity of the character. The rich cast is also extremely good. This is a cult classic for "slasher film" fans and I'm glad Lionsgate saw it fit to release it in HD.

Technical

The look of this film has never been one of rich detail or beauty. It looks like an 80's film in a lot of ways, which fits the theme really. It almost appears that the master video was enhanced a bit to increase sharpness. While this helps detail a bit, it also added very noticeable ringing to the image. That is always distracting. Color rendition is also a bit muted, but it was like that in the theaters as well.

The image has decent depth but never shines in any particular way. While I would definitely say it looks better than the standard DVD versions I've seen, it doesn't hold up real well compared to most of the HD stuff we have out there.

If for nothing else, I love this soundtrack for its musical selections. This film is a testament to the 80's with its emphasis on corporate VP's that thought so highly of themselves, consumerism, and LOTS of pop music. And the music is where most of this film gets its real dynamics. Sure the score adds a lot, but I find the 80's soundtrack choices fun and in great contrast to the horror onscreen. Ambience is also excellent, despite the obvious lack in budget.

Extras

Extras include some deleted scenes with commentary, and two feature commentaries. You also get a production feature on the 80's scene.

- Kris Deering -

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Miramax

2004, Color, Rated PG, 1 hour 41 minutes

 

Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1

1080p

 

English Uncompressed PCM 5.1

English Dolby Digital 5.1

Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1

 

Directed by Marc Forster

 

Starring Johnny Depp, Kate Winslet, Julie Christie, Dustin Hoffman, Radha Mitchell

 

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

No

Sex

No

Language

No

"Findind Neverland" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

Well-known playwright James M. Barrie finds his career at a crossroads when his latest play flops and doubters question his future. Then by chance he meets a widow and her four adventurous boys. Together they form a friendship that ignites the imagination needed to produce Barrie's greatest work!

Commentary

Peter Pan has always been one of my favorite children's stories since I was really young. The magic that the Disney film holds is still felt to this day, even at my age. Neverland is a charming and heart warming look at the events that inspired Barrie to write the play originally. The story is an emotional rollercoaster that is both endearing and tragic at the same time. I won't lie, tears fell. The cast is amazing, and the production design of this film is impeccable. A wonderful movie, worth adding to any collection.

Technical

Miramax delivers Finding Neverland with a AVC encode that comes up short of being the eye candy I was hoping for. It has been some time since I'd seen this on DVD, and I didn't have the chance to see it in theaters. The HD presentation has great color depth, but comes off quite flat most of the time. Contrast suffers a bit here and there, and lends to the lack of dimensionality.

It is hard to put a finger on exactly what is wrong, but the image had a smeared softness to it that reminded me of a bad noise reduction filter. Some scenes looked quite good, but overall I thought this wasn't the transfer this film deserved.

The audio is presented in uncompressed full resolution PCM 5.1. This is not a dynamic mix at all, but it is a very engaging and uplifting mix of ambience, spatiality, and clarity. The score is wonderful and very musical in nature. The soundstage never felt condensed to any one area, which has become a staple of these uncompressed soundtracks. Dialogue always sounds very natural with good timbre balance and imaging across the main soundstage. A solid presentation.

Extras

Extras include a feature commentary, a promo featurette, production looks, outtakes, and deleted scenes.

- Kris Deering -

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Lionsgate

1988, Color, Rated R

1 hr 42 min

 

Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1

1080p

 

English DTS HD Discrete 6.1

English Dolby Digital EX 5.1

 

Starring: Emilio Estevez, Keifer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips, Charlie Sheen, Dermot Mulroney, Casey Siemaszko, Terence Stamp

 

Directed by Christopher Cain

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Yes

Sex

Themes

Language

Yes

"Young Guns" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

A group of young gunmen, led by Billy the Kid, become deputies to avenge the murder of the rancher who became their benefactor. But when Billy takes their authority too far, they become the hunted.

Commentary

You could almost call this the Brat Pack 2! Young Guns was probably more famous for the actors on screen then the film itself, despite the fact that it was actually a really solid western film. A different look at the lore of "Billy the Kid" and an entertaining action popcorn piece showcased a lot of rising stars and propelled the careers of most involved. I enjoyed this one a lot when I was younger and still found it very satisfying this time around. A solid catalog release for Lionsgate.

Technical

This HD presentation benefits a lot from the recent remastering Lionsgate did for the special edition DVD release of a few years ago. Detail is superb through most of the film, and the print looks almost new. My chief complaint is some artifacts that look like this may have been mastered from an interlaced source, and the wrong de-interlacing was done. Slight jaggies show up on occasion and introduce some rather obvious artifacts. Thankfully, this is only noticeable on a few scenes, but it was enough for me to downgrade the score a bit.

The DTS-HD 6.1 discrete soundtrack is good, but the film's age and budget keep it from greatness. Dynamics are a bit thin, and the balance of action and the rest of what is going on (dialogue, score) aren't as good as they should be. It seems like the sound designers tried to compensate for this a bit by just making things louder, which hurts more than it helps. 

Extras

Extras include a documentary on the real Billy the Kid and a trivia track.

- Kris Deering -

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Lionsgate

1991, Color, Rated R, 2 hours 17 minutes

 

Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1

1080p

 

English DTS ES 5.1

English Dolby Digital EX 5.1

 

Starring: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Robert Patrick

 

Directed by James Cameron

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Yes

Sex

No

Language

Yes

"Terminator 2: Judgment Day" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

Nearly 10 years have passed since Sarah Connor was targeted for termination by a cyborg from the future. Now her son, John, the future leader of the resistance, is the target for a newer, more deadly terminator. Once again, the resistance has managed to send a protector back to attempt to save John and his mother Sarah.

Commentary

James Cameron's epic follow-up to his first film became one of the most revered science fiction films of all time and, in my opinion, the best of the franchise. Every facet of the original was stepped up: depth of story, acting, special effects, everything.

I don't think I need to say more, as I would have a hard time believing anyone reading this review, or owning a home theater, hasn't seen this movie several times. My only complaint here is that Lionsgate did not bother to include the director's cut of the film, which I thought was even better.

Technical

I almost wonder how good this film can look. I know it is held in high regard, and the DVD looked pretty good, but viewing it in HD revealed a bit of its age. The image can be a bit wanting at times with detail never going the full length you think it would.

Cameron's other films have done this too. I always thought Aliens should have looked better, but Cameron shot it the way he wanted. I've never had the chance to see the WMV-HD version of this that was included on the Extreme DVD edition, but I can't imagine it being too much different than this. Contrast could have been better, but I did think depth of image was pretty solid for the most part. I definitely think there is room for improvement here, and there are already rumors circulating of a re-release with an improved transfer.

For years, this soundtrack has been used for demos, and I think I've heard it in every presentation available, aside from some of the laserdisc editions. This one is no slouch and includes matrixed DTS-ES and Dolby Digital EX variations. I would have preferred an uncompressed full resolution PCM soundtrack or one of the newer lossless soundtracks, but this is still a satisfying aural experience.

This soundtrack is no slouch in the dynamics department, and the sound design is still as satisfying now as it was in theaters in the early nineties. Surrounds are used aggressively, and the bottom end is terrific. While this is still of reference quality in my book, I am still curious to hear it with one of the newer audio codecs or in uncompressed glory.

Extras

Extras are limited to two feature commentaries.

- Kris Deering -

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Walt Disney Pictures

2006, Color, Rated G

1 hr 21 min

 

Aspect Ratio: 1.78:1

1080p

 

English Uncompressed PCM 5.1

French Dolby Digital 5.1

Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1

English Dolby Digital 5.1

 

Starring: Zach Braff, Garry Marshall, Don Knotts, Patrick Stewart, Amy Sedaris

 

Directed by Mark Dindal

 

 

0

5

Entertainment

*

Video

*

Audio

*

Extras

Violence

Mild

Sex

No

Language

No

"Chicken Little" (Blu-ray)

Synopsis

After Chicken Little causes widespread panic - when he mistakes a falling acorn for a piece of the sky - the young chicken is determined to restore his reputation. But just as things are starting to go his way, a real piece of the sky lands on his head. Chicken Little and his band of misfit friends, Abby Mallard (a.k.a. Ugly Duckling), Runt of the Litter, and Fish Out of Water, attempt to save the world without sending the town into a whole new panic.

Commentary

It is sad to say, it but Disney has been on a pitiful downward spiral for quite sometime now. The Mouse House used to be the bar when it came to animated features, but as of late, their feature films haven't been much better than their dismal direct-to-video fare. Chicken Little continues that trend unfortunately.

While Disney does a superb job with the 3-D animation, it doesn't come close to saving this sad and shallow story that is so full of pop culture cliques. When are studios going to realize that style does not in any way make up for substance. You would think they could look at what their cohorts Pixar have been doing and realize that it isn't about just the animation, it is the whole package.

Technical

While the movie wasn't much to brag about, the transfer sure is. Disney has delivered a breathtaking AVC encode here that is just about as flawless as it can get. I was waiting for the banding to creep in with all of the expansive backdrops, but it never did, a feat only this animated feature has managed to pull off so far.

Detail is breathtaking, especially fine object detail. Dimensionality is superb, but like the recently reviewed Open Season, backgrounds tend to be on the flat side. The visual style of this feature tends to overuse a rather awkward haze at times, and I'm not sure why. It detracts from the backgrounds, and at times, washes out the color palette. Outside of that though, this is pure eye candy.

I was a bit worried about this soundtrack in the very beginning of the film. The opening sequence has a bit upheaval that has a ball rolling around town square. For some reason, that bass response in this scene seems dramatically turned down compared to the rest of the action. I was worried that Disney did something wrong and dynamic range was compromised. But after this scene, those doubts went away. The uncompressed PCM 5.1 soundtrack is VERY dynamic and continues Disney's trend of outstanding sound design. Bass response is excellent throughout the rest of the film and lends a hand to the musical selections and the action.

Surrounds are used extensively, with very cool discrete effects from all channels. The soundtrack is definitely geared toward the younger audience, with lots of pop music references and even classic rock references too. The soundstage is very immersive toward the end, with plenty going on from all sides yet I never felt like anything was being compromised.

Extras

Lots of extras here, and Disney has taken advantage of some of the Java features of Blu-ray. You get a production feature and a full length commentary, TONS of deleted scenes, some music videos and singalongs, and a collection of pre-bookmarked demo scenes.

- Kris Deering -

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