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DVDO Edge Video Processor
Written by Ofer LaOr   
Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:00
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DVDO Edge Video Processor
Page 2: Design of the DVDO Edge Video Processor
Page 3: Menues and Features of the DVDO Edge Video Processor
Page 4: DVDO Edge Video Processor Picture Quality
Page 5: Conclusions about the DVDO Edge Video Processor
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Conclusions

This is a well thought out product and a great new flagship for ABT. As a mass consumer product, it does require some more simplification.

As a video processor, it breaks in a new price point for this level of video processing, but it does need more work with regards to some of its aspect ratio controls (in particular panorama) and scaling.

Experts will easily adapt to the unit, but may feel that a few of their favorite features have gone missing or are a bit stunted.

Overall, this is a solid product and one that many people would enjoy as their first or as an entry level video processor.

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Comments (11)add comment
oppo 983
written by J , December 18, 2008

can you comment on how scaling is compared to the oppo? i thought they were similiar chips and i have never seen any ringing issues with oppo's use of the chip?

i know they diff in niose reduction features, but thought everything else was the same?

Thanks,



Expexsive Switch
written by Ken Kasik , December 18, 2008

When more 1080P content is available this box becomes a very expensive switch
If your have a good 1080P Plasma TV a
Good Blue-Ray Player
Sat HD signal (soon to be 1080P)

This box serves not purpose other than a very expensive switch other than updating legacy input like DVDs



re: oppo 983
written by Steve S. , December 18, 2008

Having tested using the Oppo 983 straight into my 1080p Epson projector versus the Oppo 970HD using 480i into the Edge and then into the Epson I see very little, if any, difference. In both instances this was done using only HDMI connections.


...
written by westcott , December 19, 2008

So how does it compare to the Silicon Optix HQV chipset, like the one found in, let's say, the BD P1200?


Money to burn?
written by Simon , December 19, 2008

Have been looking to upgrade my AVR now that I have blu-ray. I have not been too clear about VPs, so had not really considered them. I am over simplifying by asking, would this give me a better picture (therefore, smarter purchase - ie Denon 4308 EDGE) than buying a AVR 5308?


Automatic de-interlacing
written by Mike J , December 19, 2008

Unlike the VP50Pro, there is no facility to select forced film/video mode de-interlacing with the EDGE.

During testing of the EDGE with broadcast TV, did you come across any instances where you would have liked to be able to override the EDGE's automatic de-interlacing?



answers
written by Ofer LaOr , December 25, 2008

About the Oppo, I don't think these are comparable. If you only have a DVD to process, then you don't really need a full blown processor. Most DVDs will do fine with a good built in deinterlacer (the oppo does far more than fine in this respect) as the source is almost exclusively FILM based.

The real benefit here is processing of video sources, which are found today in broadcasting far more than they appear on DVDs.

About the unit being an Expexsive Switch. As far as I can see, if your sources are purely 1080i or higher, then you really don't need a processor. Most displays will do a more than adequate job today at deinerlacing it and we rarely see displays that bob/weave anymore (there are some exceptions to this rule). VPs really come in handy when you have a few sources, particularly when some of these are still SDTV.

I presently prefer the DVDO DL algorithm to the HQV. First, the deinterlacing is slightly better (or shell I say "different"). Both rarely fail my personal torture test, but they do fail them in different areas, so there's a trade off there. The ABT1020 fails a bit less than the original ABT102 DL algorithm, though.

HQV has also been improved and stabilized and Reon does quite nicely. I don't see any Reon based dedicated VPs, so I can't really compare them under the exact same test conditions, so it's currently an apples vs. oranges situation...


Money to burn,

if you ask me, there's no comparison. While I have not tested the 5308, in my mind there is no way an AVR today can come close to a dedicated VP. While you get 100 different audio tweaks, most of which require a PhD to understand or figure out (my current AVR has a book that is bigger than the new and old testements put together, and that's just the English version). Yet, these AVRs usually don't have even the minimal amount of VP menus, except for the ability to turn processing on or off. I think they should stop kidding themselves and either rename the field "ARs" or truly start implementing VP functions into their AVRs, they can start by adding test patterns and aspect ratio controls.

About Automatic de-interlacing, that's correct. The only features you can tweak is to force the unit into game mode. The quick response to that is that under the current DL implementation, the film bias is really unecessary. The automatic sensing and processing of video vs. film reached such a level of accuracy I rarely even bother touching these menus on the VP50pro. I felt no need for these features in the Edge and I think it was a smart choice to avoid adding them to the menus.



Picture quality DVDO VP50 pro versus the Edge
written by Raoul , December 29, 2008

If you compare the Edge with the VP50 pro is picture quality the same or less considering the price tag of the VP50 pro ?


EDGE and Media Center
written by AllanG. , December 31, 2008

Would there be a case for adding an EDGE in a audio video media center home distribution sytem . And where in the chain would you place it for the best use???.


Why Edge...
written by Bala , February 09, 2009

For those enthusiasts of HTPC, who wish to archive their DVD collection on (these days very low cost) HDD's for easy access at playback, putting the Edge between the HTPC and the Video playback device is the lowest cost approach to high performance video. THough I use a Oppo 983 now, I plan to migrate my collection of DVDs to Hard disk and run it on an HTPC through a VP. An idea for others to consider


...
written by anon , February 23, 2009

"Unlike the VP50Pro, there is no facility to select forced film/video mode de-interlacing with the EDGE."

If I understand right, it does have this now or will have it soon.

re: expensive HDMI switch, first of all, many HDMI switchers are 400 - 500 already, and if you need an audio delay device that is decent quality those are another 200 - 300. Hey, I still have VHS and S-VHS tapes and running them through the DVDO results in surprisingly good results. I absolutely need HDMI switching and audio delay device, so for an additional $100 I also get best of brand upscaling that exists without spending > 2k.

Oh - and DVDs still have a place for another 2 - 4 years price-wise. If you want to buy TV series, they are *a lot* cheaper in DVD vs Blu-Ray. If I really care about a movie then I'll get Blu-Ray, but for example my wife watched all 7 or 8 seasons of West Wing - much more palatable price-wise on DVD than Blu-Ray.




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