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Written by John E. Johnson, Jr.   
Sunday, 24 August 2008 17:00
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Klipsch Palladium P-39F Floor-standing Speakers
Page 2: Klipsch Palladium P-39F Design
Page 3: Klipsch Palladium P-39F Sound
Page 4: Klipsch Palladium P-39F Bench Tests and Conclusions
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Klipsch P-39F Speakers

Introduction to the P-39F

Like McIntosh, the Klipsch name goes back as far as I can remember.

In those early days, it was the Klipschorn, which was a speaker that looked like a bookcase as much as it did a speaker. It was the most massive speaker I had ever seen. I experienced many a demo on those speakers, and the sound filled the room, but I didn't really understand why.

Specifications

  • Design: Three-way, Horn Loaded Tweeter and Midrange, Bass Reflex (Woofers)
  • Drivers: One 0.75" Titanium Compression Tweeter - 900 x 600 Tractrix Horn; One 4.5" Aluminum Compression Midrange - 900 x 600 Tractrix Horn; Three 9"Aluminum Cone Woofers
  • MFR: 39 Hz - 24 kHz ± 3 dB
  • Sensitivity: 99 dB @ 2.83V/Meter
  • Crossover Frequencies: 500 Hz, 3.2 kHz
  • Nominal Impedance: 4 Ohms
  • Power Handling: 400 Watts Continuous (50-1000 Watts Recommended)
  • Dimensions: 56" H x 12" W x 24.8" D
  • Weight: 165 Pounds/Each
  • MSRP: $20,000/Pair USA
  • Klipsch

It turns out that it was all in the name. Paul Klipsch had designed these speakers around a "horn" concept, sort of like a megaphone. The driver was at the back of the horn, and because the horn magnified the sound - focused it in a sense - very little power was needed to drive it. In fact, only a few watts would do the trick. While today's speakers have a sensitivity of 87 dB/W/M, the Klipschorns were (are) more on the order of 105 dB/W/M. So, to put that in perspective, if you were using a 200 watt amplifier to drive a pair of 87 dB sensitivity speakers, it would only take 3 watts to drive the Klipschorns to the same volume. The P-39Fs have a sensitivity of 99 dB at 2.83V/Meter and are rated at nominal 4 Ohms impedance.

 

 

 

 

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Klipschorn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That was half a century ago, and although the Klipschorns are still manufactured, Klipsch has moved on to many other products, including the new Palladium P-39F floor-standers that are the subject of this review.


 

The Design

The Klipsch Palladium is also the size of a bookcase, at least in height if not in width.

At the top is a horn-loaded tweeter, with a horn-loaded midrange driver underneath, and then comes three 9" cone woofers (not horn loaded).

 

 

Klipsch P-39F Speakers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A close-up of the tweeter and midrange is shown below. You can see that the drivers themselves are located deep in the throat of the "horn".  You can also see tha the enclosure slopes to a point in the rear, sort of like the bow of a boat. This eliminates standing waves since no opposing sides are parallel. The review speakers came with the natural finish in a real wood veneer that resembles Zebrawood. There are two other versions with darker stains.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Top

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looking into the throat of the tweeter shows that the driver is covered by a wave guide.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Tweeter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The midrange also has a wave guide.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Midrange

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The point of these photos is to illustrate that the tweeter and midrange are not just conventional drivers sitting at the back of a horn. There is a lot of engineering that has gone into their design. The result is a sound that is properly dispersed no matter where you sit in the room.

For woofers, the P-39F uses three 9" drivers, as you can see in the photos at the beginning of the review.

There are also three large ports on the rear side of the enclosure, and each speaker in a pair is the mirror image of the other, that is, the ports are not on the same side of each speaker. We arranged the review pair so that the ports were on the outside of each speaker. Also, in the photo below, you can see the speaker cable (Slinkylinks) coming from the underside where the binding posts are located. Because the cable binding posts are mounted on the bottom, you need to put these speakers on the spiked feet that are included, and we used small indented discs for the spikes to sit in, so that the feet would not damage our carpets or hardwood floors.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Ports

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The speaker binding posts are set up for tri-wiring if you like.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Binding Posts

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


The Sound

I tested the P-39Fs using a McIntosh MCD201 SACD player, McIntosh MT10 turntable with Clearaudio MC cartridge, VPI HR-X turntable with Sumiko Blackbird cartridge, and McIntosh MC1201 power amplifiers. Cables were Slinkylinks and Nordost.

These speakers have a terrific ability to render detail. Such is the case with classical guitar such as Guitar Music of Chile (Naxos 8.570341). They are right on the money in terms of soundstaging too, as it was easy to sense the placement of the guitarist just to the left of center. Hand selection of matched drivers to go into each pair goes a long way to achieving this effect, along with the way the horns focus their sound projection, rather than the more diffuse projection of a conventional driver.Klipsch P-39F Speakers Guitar Music

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Mellencamp's voice sounded very natural in his recent release Life Death Love and Freedom (8-88072-30822-0). There was no chestiness or excessive sibilance. He has aged gracefully over the decades that I have listened to his music, and the P-39Fs don't add or detract from it.

There has always been a criticism of horn speakers having a sound like it is coming from a megaphone, as if you are cupping your hands around your mouth when you sing, or around the bell of a trumpet when it is played, but I did not get that feeling at all with the P-39F speakers. If anything, there is an increased ability to localize instruments and voices across the front, perhaps because the sound is focused by the horns as I mentioned above. But, the horns did not impart a sound of their own.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers John Mellencamp CD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Piano is always a good test for speakers, such as this EMI Classics (5-0999-5-00281-22) recording of Leif Ove Andsnes playing Mozart Piano Concertos 17 and 20. Besides just hearing a note or a chord, the you are there sense requires the sound of the felt hammers striking the wires, and that came through very clearly. However, again, what really caught my attention was the placement across the soundstage.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Mozart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now to the deep bass. The Palladium P-39F has three 9" woofers in each enclosure, so I was expecting, and did experience the deep bass in such recordings as Baroque Music for Brass and Organ (Telarc SACD-60614). The bass was not only deep, but very tight, and that is because it is easier to keep smaller drivers under control than larger ones. On the other hand, it then requires the use of more drivers if they are to be smaller in diameter, and that is why each P-39F has three of them. The bass didn't sound boomy or chesty at all, even at high volume.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Baroque Organ

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My wife, Susan, and I listened to the P-39Fs many an evening, and she mentioned that they really make you want to listen to the music instead of read a newspaper.

 


Klipsch P-39F Speakers On the Bench

At 50 Hz, THD+N was 2.7%. I measured this at 1 foot from the center woofer.

At 1 kHz, measured from the midrange driver, distortion was a very low 0.4%.

And, at 10 kHz, measured from the tweeter, 0.5%.

Room response, measured at 2 meters, is shown below. The bump between 60 Hz and 80 Hz is a room effect. The response is flat between 600 Hz and 20 kHz. The response below 600 Hz is a little lower than the response above 600 Hz (the crossover frequency between the midrange driver and woofers is 500 Hz). I suspect this is due to the more focused transmission of the sound from the horn-loaded midrange driver and tweeter, as compared to the conventional woofer cone drivers, and that I tested the speakers quite a way in from any walls. The tri-wiring capability would really come in handy here by simply driving the midrange and tweeter together, and a second power amplifier for the woofers. Then the low frequencies could be raised to be in line with the rest of the room response.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Frequency Response

The impedance dips down to 3 Ohms between 100 and 400 Hz, but then stays beetween 8 Ohms and 16 Ohms from 900 Hz to 20 kHz. The electrical phase stays between ± 600 throughout the audible region. In general, I would say the P-39F would be a relatively easy load to drive, even for small wattage tube amplifiers. The 100 Hz - 400 Hz region that has low impedance corresponds to a phase within -400 to +450.

Klipsch P-39F Speakers Impedance

I interviewed Claytor from Klipsch about the P-39F. Click on his photo below to download a video of the interview.

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Conclusions About the Klipsch P-39F Speakers

The new Klipsch Palladium P-39F speakers are impressive. It takes very little power to drive them, they sound neutral, and a strong point is their remarkable ability for pinpoint instrument and voice localization across the soundstage.

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Comments (13)add comment
50Hz 2.7% THD N
written by Josuah , August 26, 2008

Is 50Hz 2.7% THD N actually good? It doesn't seem particularly good to me, but I'm basing that on electronics ratings.


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written by JEJ , August 26, 2008

It's not too bad actually. Even the JL Audio f113 had 1.6% THD N at 50 Hz, and it is a very good dedicated subwoofer. Distortion in the low frequencies is always much higher than the distortion at midrange and tweeter frequencies. Fortunately, in the deep bass, our ears can put up with a lot of distortion. 10% is the number most often mentioned as the upper limit of "acceptable" bass distortion.


thanks for the review
written by Rick , August 27, 2008

Thank you for the review. I found your choice of CDs very interesting.


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written by Jay , August 27, 2008

He said the room effect is 60 - 80 hertz, he tested at 50 hertz, so I would say much of the distortion is from the room.


I have heard P39F's also
written by J Malotky , August 27, 2008

I also have been very impressed with these speakers. A close friend of mine took delivery of his brand spanking new P39F’s about a month ago.

I have heard details on these speakers that I never heard on any other speakers. The midrange is stunning. Very detailed and precise. What surprised me was the bass also was very detailed and precise and matches the midrange very nice.

For an example way outside what was reviewed here one item we listened to was Metalica’s black album. I have this music memorized. I could clearly hear how they overdubbed a lower bass note at the initial attack of a phrase while clearly hearing the upper bass strings being plucked. As for the drums, each hit was clear and precise. Detail I never heard before on any speaker.

The overall sound is very balanced and flat. The P39 does not sound like any other Klipsch speaker they have ever made. Comparing these to Klipschorns or Cornwalls would not be fair in my opinion. This is a brand new sound for Klipsch. I bet the brass and engineering departments at Klipsch are very proud of this product.

In my opinion, Klipsch hit this one out of the park. This product will be the new standard everyone will try to meet.

If you get a chance, give them a listen. The experience is a real treat. I just wish I had $20K to spend.



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written by JEJ , August 27, 2008

For speaker testing, I like to use CDs that have guitar or other stringed instruments, something with powerful bass, and of course, something with the human voice. We receive lots of new CDs all the time, so I usually select something from the new music that has arrived. I also listen to some familiar CDs, but I like to have something fresh and new as well.


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written by JEJ , August 28, 2008

This was the first big set of horn-loaded speakers I have tested. The most amazing thing about them was the pinpoint instrument localization across the stage. Surely, the focused sound from the horns had something to do with it. I wish I had some small single-ended Class A triode tube amps on hand at the time of the review to use with them, but no such luck. The Lamm ML2.1 18 watt monoblocks would have been perfect.


distortion at 100dB
written by Arg , September 10, 2008

I like the way you tested distortion at 99-100dB. Was that just because the speaker sensitivity is 99dB? I hope not. I like to see speakers tested at high SPL. There is no point in testing the Klipsch at 100dB and an 85dB speaker at 85dB. In reality we are going to listen to them both at the same SPL, so they should be tested at the same SPL.

That raises the question of what SPL to standardise for measurement. Personally I would like to see all speakers tested at a level that produces 105dB at 2 metres (the distance being a proxy standard listening distance). This is the peak level adopted for cinemas, and for THX certification, and for mastering the audio for commercial DVD, so it makes sense for consumers to know what the product delivers at that level, especially in terms of distortion and dynamic compression at a range of frequencies.

And, I bet, doing so would sort the men from the boys! Some speakers would not even be able to deliver a result at, say, 50Hz.



Klipsch RF 83's worth a listen
written by K Elliott , September 21, 2008

I have owned a pair of RF 83's for about a year now and love them. They have many of the same qualities as their much more expensive brethren reviewed above. Very detailed yet smooth highs, powerful quick bass and very liquid midrange. Very easy to drive; the headphone jack on my preamp could drive them reasonably well.

Since they must be located near the rear walls in my room to make domestic life liveable the bass was rather boomy - no problem, just blocked one of the three rear firing ports with foam on each speaker - worked like a champ; cleaned the bass right up.

These speakers sound great with tubes!



Klipsch RF 62
written by Eugene Penn, St.Petersburg, Russia , September 30, 2008

Have them since last January. Sounds perfect to me after long and painfully choosing the right one speakers.


Klipsch RF-7
written by Rob , October 14, 2008

To me one off the best especcially with my Denon A11xva. Superb.

Il like the reviews of the new speakers P-39F.

Nice!



RF-82
written by Richard , December 24, 2008

I have a klipsch RF-82 matched system, except for the subwoofer, which I upgraded to the rt-12d. All I can say Klipsch has me as a customer for life. These speakers should last me at least 10-20 years, if not more, and I will definitely be getting another Klipsch system to replace them.


Klipsch are awesome
written by Gregory Miller , January 26, 2009

I own to pair of klipsch speakers one pair is the RF35 and the other pair is synergy F3. I have a rotel receiver and a rotel 200 watt power amp monster cables with 24 karat gold bananas and man they sound superb. Klipsch fan for life. I might have to tell the kids they cant go to college because daddy needs a pair of palladiums now lol



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