Receivers
| Denon AVR-1909 7.1 A/V Receiver - Page 6: Conclusions About the Denon AVR-1909 7.1 A/V Receiver |
| Written by Kevin Lichterman |
| Sunday, 08 February 2009 16:00 |
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Conclusions The Denon AVR-1909 is one heck of a receiver. Considering what the features on the Denon would have cost just a year or so ago, it offers a great value at $649. Aside from its great theater sound, with features including the latest HDMI video processing, Audyssey audio optimization and the support of the latest surround formats, this is a receiver I had no trouble living with the past few months. If the minor shortcomings I discovered aren’t a concern for you: an HDMI input or two short of ideal, the lack of amplification upgrade path, a poor remote and an unpolished OSD interface, I would not hesitate to add the Denon AVR-1909 to your system. Comments (10)
video output resolution?
written by Kieran Coghlan , February 09, 2009 Great review! Is the resolution of the video output(s) adjustable? Can HDMI out be set to 720p or 1080i or 1080p, or any other resolutions? What about the component output? Thanks...
Video Output Resolution
written by Kevin Lichterman , February 10, 2009 While I did not run through all the combinations, HDMI video output can be set to 480p, 720p 1080i and 1080p. Generally, you can convert up to better connections (component to HDMI) but not down (HDMI to s-video). For component video output, I took a quick look at the manual, video conversion from lesser connections (composite, s-video) to component video is possible but I am not sure what the output resolution would be. While I did not see it specifically stated nor did I see an option to set the component resolution, I suspect you may get what you put in. 480i s-video in you get 480i s-video out. If you are curious take a look here http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-1909-OM_E_004.pdf. Thanks for reading. Kevin
4 Ohm Performance???
written by Todd Sauve , February 21, 2009 Hi again Kevin, Thanks for reviewing the Denon 789 (1909) for us, as I requested when you did the 2309 review :) You wrote: "THD+N vs. Power Output is shown below for 8 ohms and 4 ohms. At 8 ohms, clipping (1% THD+N) occurred at 115 watts output, while at 4 ohms, clipping occurred at 140 watts output. There is not much difference in output between the two impedance loads, so I say again that this receiver should probably be limited to use with 8 ohm speakers." Is this statement not a contradiction? The THD at 140 watts is well within audible tolerances for we humans, so why wouldn't this receiver work fine for 4 Ohm speakers? Most of us NEVER drive a speaker at 140 watts, or even half of that! I ask because I use Magnepan MMGs, which are nominally 4 Ohm speakers but are nevertheless fairly easy to drive with any even a half-way decent receiver. And this Denon is more than decent looking according to your review :)
4 Ohm
written by Kevin Lichterman , February 27, 2009 What this measurement is showing is that the amplifier in the Denon is a limiting factor when driving lower impedance loads. In a high dollar amp, generally (ideally) output will double as impedance halves. In the Denon it does not. In the real world this means you could be drive your Maggies but I would be careful with playing them to loud or cranking the up the volume (the MMG are NOT too efficient at 86dB so it will be a temptation). Without the current reserves or cooling capacity of a separate amp or higher-end receiver, the speakers may clip or the Denon would become stressed (get really hot) trying to drive the load. While there is a protection circuit on the receiver to block any catastrophic failures, if you like things loud you may want to look for another choice in a receivers. I'd hate to have things shut down on you in the middle of a movie.
1909 identical to the 789?
written by Mark , March 02, 2009 Is the Denon 1909, really identical internally and every way to the 789 like most people claim? Are they built in the same factory? Why would Denon create two different model numbers (1909/789)of the same reciever (internal)? How is this cost efficient for the manufactering process? What is the reason for this? Unless you have proof they are different internally? Thanks,
Sherwood Newcastle
written by Emilio , March 24, 2009 Hello Everybody When is the Sherwood Newcastle R-972 going to be reviewed. And for the price this Denon receiver is a very good product. Thanks
Difference between the Denon AVR 789 and the Denon AVR 1909
written by Dana Baggett , March 30, 2009 Mark asked if there was any difference between the Denon AVR 789 and the 1909. I own the 789 and have carefully researched the question. The only two differences in the 1909 with a MSRP of $649. and the 789 with a MSRP of $599 is: 1. The 1909 includes a small, second remote intended for Zone 2 operation, and 2. The 1909 has a plug on the back labeled "RF/RC 2WAY", next to the Sirius plug. The function of this plug is to allow you to hard-wire a two-way RF remote controller (sold separately) to use in a different room. All internals are identical. The reason apparently is that the 789 is typically sold in consumer oriented stores like Circuit City (was), while the 1909 is sold in more specialized home theater shops such as Best Buy's Magnolia stores. Now a comment on the review. I noticed that for music, the reviewer selected two channel stereo. Then he complained about a weak bass. Did he adjust the settings from those used for his home theater so as to include his subwoofer, i.e., a 2.1 setup? I ask because this receiver produces a huge bass response for me when I play stereo CDs. I am using the Aperion Audio Intimus 5T Hybrid HD with two added back speakers in a 7.1 config. Terrific.
bass is not lacking
written by Steve0 , April 17, 2009 By default the sub is set to LFE only so you have to manually change the setting to main+lfe. Until I did that my sub did not kick in during stereo playback. My sub has an LED light on the front and has auto on/off so I can tell when it kicks in or not. One thing with the 789 is that at full volume with headphones on I can hear a bit of background hiss. My previous Onkyo 505 was completely black at full volume even, which is rare for any amp.
4 ohm surrounds
written by Matt , May 27, 2009 going from a 5.1 set up to a 7.1 set up now that i have the denon 789. i have a couple of 4 ohm boston bravos in the closet that i was thinking of adding. will the 4 ohms speakers be a problem as surrounds or should i just get some new speakers? my whole front stage is 8 ohm Write comment
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