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Q&A # 75 - August 4, 1998

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Q I just purchased a new preamp ($2,500) from a very reputable manufacturer. Everytime the preamp is switched on, several of my on-air (antenna only - no cable or satellite) TV channels develop interference. I tried a battery operated TV with rabbit ears (to avoid any possible physical connection between the TV and preamp). Even at a distance of 15 - 20 feet from the room where the preamp is located, the TV picks up interference. As the TV is moved closer to the preamp, the interference increases. This occurs whether or not any components are plugged into the unit. All of my existing equipment has been in use with another receiver used as a preamp without any problems. The unit is being shipped back to the manfacturer for testing. Does this sound abnormal for a preamp of this caliber?

A Your preamplifier is oscillating at radio frequencies, and it is not normal for this preamp or any preamp to do so. You probably remember some of the old movies where someone who crash lands in the jungle converts a radio receiver to a radio transmitter and taps out some Morse code to get the rescue party to come and get them. They do it by making the circuit oscillate at radio frequencies. Even though you can't hear the oscillation in your preamp (the oscillation is at frequencies beyond human audibility), it definitely degrades the performance. One of the parts in the preamp may have a short, and it is usually just a minor repair.

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Q I have a query regarding speakers for the Denon AVR-3200 DD receiver which I have recently purchased, and you have recently reviewed. I am thinking of purchasing some kit speakers from Vaf Research (http://www.vaf.com.au) on the basis of the outstanding reviews they have received from Australian magazines such as Audio Yearbook, Best Buys and Audio & Video Lifestyle. My concern is with the impedances of the speakers. I am thinking of DC-X's (6 Ohm nominal, 95dB/W at 1m) as fronts, a centre DC-6 (?impedance, 95dB/W at 1m) and DC-7's (6 Ohm nominal, 93dB/W at 1m).

My hope is that the high sensitivity of the speakers will allow me to drive them at sufficiently high volume levels without damaging the
receiver. Given the high sensitivity of the speakers, a nominal 6 Ohm impedance looks ok, but the impedance/frequency plots available at Vaf's WWW site show the impedance dropping dangerously close to 4 Ohms for some parts of the frequency spectrum. I do value Vaf giving out this type of information, because I feel I could end up buying 8 Ohm "nominal" speakers only to find that they have a << 8 Ohm impedance for a large part of their frequency range.

So my questions are:

1) In your opinion, if used at sensible volume levels, would I be able to get away with using the above Vaf speakers, despite them having impedances less than Denon's specified 8 Ohms?

2) Would the protector circuit in the receiver give any protection with low impedance speakers being driven too hard, or is it just to protect
against short-circuits?

3) I know that a low powered amp can damage tweeters if driven into clipping, and a too higher powered amp can simply blow speakers up if
turned up to high. What are the symptoms/damage caused by using speakers with lower than specified impedance at too high volume?

4) Would a cooling/ventilation fan for the receiver help at all?

5) I've heard you describe dynamic power ratings as meaning squat, but I've seen a fairly reputable magazine use them to approximate the amount of power available at non-rated impedances, e.g., 80W rated into 8 Ohms, with 105W dynamic power at 8 Ohms, 215W dynamic power at 4 Ohms indicates that approximately 215*80/105=164W could be safely supplied to a 4 Ohm speaker. Does this type of calculation have any factual basis at all?

And yes, as per your recommendations, I am planning to buy a 3 channel power amp as soon as my budget allows.


A Because the speakers you intend to buy have a high sensitivity, you should be just fine when using the Denon with them. But, as you say, be sensible with the volume control. In fact, even after you get the three channel power amplifier, still be sensible about the volume. Your hearing is at risk if you play the system really loud, whether the amplifier is powerful or not. The value of big power amplifiers is that they will sound clean all the time, and will have excellent dynamics for transient demands. Remember that our ears were not designed for listening to the sound of a .357 Magnum at realistic levels.

Most high-performance components have protection circuits for shorts and overheating. Some mass market products have these also. But I would not suggest using a fan just to cool an overdriven amplifier down. Better to operate it within safe limits.

Symptoms of clipping damage to speakers would be a tweeter that does not work at all, and/or a woofer that makes scraping sounds (the voice coil rubbing against the magnet).

Power ratings have always been a problem with mass market components. The Marketing Department wants the specs to say "X", and the Engineering Department is restrained by budgets. Thus, all the confusing numbers. What I look for is the rating into 8 Ohms in rms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, with all channels driven, and the rating into 4 Ohms. If the product is not rated into 4 Ohms, or is rated only at 1 kHz, I am more cautious about its capability.

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Q I have a system with following: DSP-A1, Sunfire Subwoofer, five identical B&W 603s and 2 small JBLs for front effects, Pioneer DL-909 combo LD/DVD player. When I set the front main speakers to LARGE, I don't hear much bass from a music source such as CD. Obviously the DSP-A1 doesn't send any low frequencies to the subwoofer. So I set the front main speakers to SMALL and the crossover frequency on the sub to about 70 Hz, the volume to 0, the the phase to normal, and it sounds much better when listening to music. However, I still leave the center speaker (which is identical to the main ones) to LARGE, and when I watch actions movies with intense explosions (such as "Starship Troopers"), then it seems that the center can't handle the sound or was I experiencing clipping? Here are my questions to
you:

1. Should I set the center speaker to SMALL just like the main ones so that low frequencies can be directed to the sub?

2. If the answer to (1) is YES, then what should I set the crossover frequency and volume on the subwoofer and what should I set the EQ level for the center speaker? (The DSP-A1 provides this as you know from your own review of this unit.) Also, does this affect the dialog in any way? (i.e.
some low voice may come from the sub and it may sound funny?)

3. If the answer to (1) is NO, then what should I do to eliminate the problem that I described above and reduce some stresses from the center
speaker? Should I buy a different center speaker? I understand DD or DTS specifies identical speakers all around and that's what I have.


A Even with all the speakers set to "Large", there will still be some bass going to the subwoofer. If you set one or more of the speakers to "Small", you just get more of the bass to the subwoofer. The problem with using the "Small" setting on receivers, is that they use 90 Hz as the standard crossover frequency. This is too high, in my opinion. Bookshelf speakers can all respond to about 70 Hz, and floorstanding speakers can all respond to about 50 Hz, with no problem. It's just the tiny modular speakers that need a 90 Hz crossover. At 90 Hz, just about every subwoofer sounds boomy. Also, the bass at 90 Hz is directional (you can tell where it's coming from). This is why I suggested that the future models of receivers and processor/amplifiers offer a selection of crossover frequencies. The DSP-A1 allows you to direct the bass anywhere, but it still uses the 90 Hz as the crossover. The center channel gets a lion's share of the audio action, so you could try setting the speaker to "Small", with the low pass on your subwoofer set to about 60 Hz. This might keep the boominess down. If not, you should get a three channel power amplifier for the front left/center/right and use the pre-outs on the DSP-A1. A new center channel speaker is not necessary, and in fact, you are much better off keeping the center the same as your other front speakers.



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Q Toshiba is reportedly going to offer a DVD player with progressive scan (480p). What are the advantages of progressive scan when playing DVDs over a top of the line transport like the Faroudja or Theta (which I am contemplating purchasing)?

A Progressive scan images will look like your computer monitor. You won't see the scan lines, or at least, they will be a lot less visible. DVD stores the data in progressive scan format. Current players convert the data to interlaced information that our NTSC TVs can use. The new progressive scan DVD players will output the data as non-interlaced info, and HDTVs will be able to show the video in non-interlaced (progressive scan) form. Some current projection TVs, capable of higher scan rates, should also be able to show the images from these new DVD players. Line doublers take an interlaced image and create the lines in between, giving a reasonable facsimile of the progressive scan image. The difference is that progressive scan data is represented by original video info, while the line doubler uses mathematical algorithms to "guess" what the video info would have been, in between the interlaced lines. Personally, I would rather have real video data rather than synthesized data, but line doublers are superb at what they do. Faroudja and Theta are marvelous products. You might ask if progressive scan upgrades will be available on their players.

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Q Do you know if the Yamaha DSP-A1 will need an upgrade to play the new DTS DVDs? It was released before DTS DVDs. I would hate to buy one and when DTS DVDs come out, find out it won't decode the DTS bitstream properly.

A The DSP-A1 plays the DTS DVD that we have in our lab correctly. It will not require an upgrade. The Millennium 5.1 DTS decoder will need upgrade chips if you bought one before April, 1998. The cost is $20. We received an E-Mail from someone who has a Sherwood receiver with DD and DTS decoding, and he said it works fine as is.

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Q I've set the cut-off on my subwoofer at 70 Hz, and use it with music. I tried, at your advice, to set the cut-off at 50 Hz, but it didn't work well. The bass sounded slow and "fat". I heard it on "Sorrow" from the Pulse album, Pink Floyd and some other songs also. This disappeared when I set the cut-off back to 70 Hz. Now it sounds clean and "right". How come? My mains go to 35 Hz, and the sub to 25 Hz on paper, but plays test tones at 21.5 Hz.

A This may be due to phase shift. By adjusting the low pass on your subwoofer to 50 Hz, the phase shift at 50 Hz was altered from where it was when the low pass was set to 70 Hz. The phase shifted 50 Hz then interacts with the 50 Hz from your main speakers and gives you the different sounding bass. If you like your current results, there is no reason to alter the settings. But, if you want to experiment further, try setting it to 50 Hz again and moving the subwoofer to some different locations in the room.

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Q I have read that VCRs have horizontal resolution of 210~240 lines, broadcast TV 330 lines and LD/DVD of 480 lines. This is a bit confusing. Any TV set will have a fixed number of columns of RGB pixels say 800 odd. So when a VCR conveys information for 210 vertical lines, how are the balance vertical lines filled up?

A All the pixels are illuminated, regardless of the resolution. With lower resolution video, less of the pixels will have discrete illumination. That is, with low resolution images, if you looked at any two pixels next to one another, they would more likely appear illuminated with the same luminance and chroma, than if the image resolution were higher. Basically, it just means that less information is spread out over the 800 pixels.

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Q Do all inputs on a preamp sound the same or not? I have read in a few articles that a "tape" input on a preamp often sounds better than other inputs due to a shorter signal path. Is this correct? Since I listen exclusively to CDs, perhaps I can use the preamp's tape input instead of
the cd/aux input.

A Except for the RIAA equalized phono cartridge input, the preamplifier inputs (line-level) should all be the same, including the tape playback input. What you may be referring to is the tape loop, which provides output that bypasses the volume control. Tape inputs still go through the volume control. In any case, try the two inputs to decide for yourself.


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