| Nordost Thor Power Distribution Center |
| Written by Jason Victor Serinus | |||||
| Wednesday, 16 April 2008 16:00 | |||||
Introduction My eyebrows raised at the very notion of the Nordost Thor. “What in the world is a power distribution system?” I asked myself. “And why in hell’s name should a simple-looking, lightweight box that sends power to six components cost $3,300?” Hence, when offers to evaluate the Thor for Secrets came my way, I initially ignored them. Even after Harry Pearson of TAS gave the product a Golden Ear Award, and Roy Gregory of the U.K.’s HiFi+ went as far as declaring, “Once you’ve got used to it in the system, taking it out means no music – it’s as simple as that,” I resisted. If I was going to review another power product, I wanted it to be an even better, he-man power regenerator à la the PS Audio Power Plant (whose now-discontinued, highly inefficient P600 is both a backbreaker and utility company profits enhancer) or my then-reference, an upgraded ExactPower 15A. Then, at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest, I had lunch with Joe Reynolds of Nordost. When Joe brought up the Thor, I once again crossed my arms, scrunched my face, and declared “No no no!” Joe is quite persuasive, however, when he waxes ecstatic about products he cares about (including products from other manufacturers). Once he had concluded his rap, it was hard to say no. Specifications
I’m glad I gave in. I have since joined the ranks of reviewers who have declared that life without the Thor is not worth living. Product Description and Innards The Thor, a joint collaboration between Nordost and UK “mains power specialist” IsoTek, is a 6-way AC mains power distribution unit. Nordorst claims that its sophisticated circuitry deals with mains noise and voltage spikes without limiting dynamic headroom. Visually, the Thor is a hardly prepossessing, shiny aluminum box, whose most distinguishing characteristic in front is a brightly illuminated blue logo “on light” on the center faceplate. Due to its brightness, I had found it extremely useful for making my way through our darkened living room at night to open the door for our now departed pooch. I also use it to center my other components on the rack. If you demand total darkness when you use your system at night, you may wish to either cover it over or find out if you can open the chassis and connect it entirely. (I did as much with the equally insistent blue-lit logo on my P600). Frankly, I’ve made my peace with it, in the same way as many have made their peace with “In God We Trust” on the currency of a supposedly secular nation. On the back of the unit are six high quality three-prong AC outlets, with a separate IEC input on the left. There’s also a green grounding knob for grounding other components, and a fuse box that includes an active fuse and a spare. The unit’s rubber feet can be replaced with other 6mm threaded points or supports. Because I didn’t have Nordost’s own resonance and vibration control devices on hand at the time of the review, I variously used brass cones, Ganymede ball-bearing supports, and Cerapucs. All improve the sound to varying degrees. What matters, far more than what you see on the outside, is what’s inside the Thor. Rather than paraphrasing Nordost’s standard website rap, I phoned Joe Reynolds and asked for the lowdown. He said the following: "Our goal in creating the Thor was to come out with a power distribution system that wouldn’t compress the dynamics of the music system. We call it a power distribution system rather than a power conditioning system because power conditioners such as regenerators (that regenerate power from the wall) and filters (that filter noise from the AC line) tend to compress the dynamic range of the system. There are some that compress dynamics less than others. But anytime you take that approach, you’re going to have compression. "There are three different elements in the Thor. The first is a Quantum X1 module that employs proprietary Quantum Resonant Technology (QRT) that significantly lowers the noise floor in the system. You can actually measure the improvement in the audio waveform of a piece of music with the Thor in place. "One of the things we’ve found as we’ve tried device after device is that, while they’ve smoothed out things, they’ve also killed dynamics. If the manufacturer is doing their job properly, their amplifiers work properly and quietly without putting another amplifier in front of their amplifier. That’s why we use Quantum Technology to lower the noise floor. We recently showed some of these Quantum devices at CES in Vegas. The more we added to the system, the quieter the system got. "The Thor also uses the Polaris- X grounding system to completely isolate each component that’s plugged into it. If you plug in an amplifier, there will be no spurious noise from the CD player going back into the system through the amp. "The unit also uses a very high quality silver-plated circuit board and silver solder. The unit is wired internally with Nordost Dual Mono-filament power cables that include some of the same elements and technology as in the Valhalla power cord. "The Thor is equally effective in music and home theater systems. It improves picture quality dramatically as well as lowering the noise floor. "In order to make the unit run more efficiently, there is some resonant control built into the casework. You can attach a set of Nordost Pulsar Point Resonant Control devices. We make two versions: a two-piece aluminum version PP4 ($119/four) that you can thread into components or speakers. We also make a titanium version (PP4 Ti ($499/four) that is even better. There are also Quasar Points ($199/four) that use ball bearing technology.
Set-Up Although Nordost didn’t have to convince me, the company stresses that the quality of the power cable connected to the Thor affects the sound of the entire chain of components. In my case, I used Nordost Valhalla power cables. The main trick, when using stiff power cables in a relatively small space, is managing to plug everything in without yanking the lightweight Thor off its supports. At a recent demo of Reference Recordings’ new HRx master recordings, Prof. Keith O. Johnson shared some priceless information. Keith explained that a key reason that power cables sound much better days after they’re plugged in is that, if their insulation is plastic, tiny bubbles can form when the plastic is bent. These negatively affect sound, and can take awhile to work themselves out. The Teflon coating on Nordost cables is less susceptible to bubbling, but is also affected. This is why Nordost cables always sound better the day after they’re plugged in. The sound of power cables that use metal foil insulation, such as those by David Elrod, is especially affected by bending. No wonder Elrod asks people to let his cables settle in for 96 hours before critical evaluation. I also replaced the stock fuse that comes with the unit with an audiophile grade fuse. Listening I was using a modified ExactPower at the time the Thor arrived. Modifications included removing the resistors and iron ferrite clamps in the unit that were designed to minimize if not eliminate noise transfer between components. A simple before/after listening comparison confirmed that while those items did lower noise, they also obscured detail and negatively impacted color. I also changed most outlets to the exceptional outlets from Sound Applications, and switched to an audiophile grade fuse. I have no doubt that I would have achieved additional improvement by changing the internal wiring. Yet, with all that work, the ExactPower could not do what the Thor does straight out of the box. To use the Thor, I removed the ExactPower from the system, plugged everything in, and fired things up. I didn’t wait 24 hours to listen; I just went right to it. While I suspect that the solder joints and wire in the Thor require a good 50 or more hours to break-in, and am certain that everything sounded better the next day, the effect of the Thor on my system was so remarkable that I didn’t need a day to tell the difference. To use language that will certainly make my age clear, the thor blew my mind. The first word that immediately came into my head was "coherence". I had long experienced what I considered a fine audiophile soundstage. In orchestral music, for example, the violins were in their place, the cellos in theirs, the timpani back on the left, and the brass blasting on the right. On jazz vocals, the singer was in the middle, and the support arranged around him/her and in the rear. When my system was tuned properly, it was easy to pinpoint exact instrument location. There was a goodly amount of air and clarity, and everything hung magically in space. It didn’t for a moment fool me into believing I was sitting at a live concert, but it was very, very cool. The Thor, however, took music reproduction to an entirely different level. Within minutes, I felt that everything I had heard before was merely play-acting. What changed? Images that had previously floated in their correct little spaces in that classic, somewhat disembodied “audiophile way” now seemed to hold together in a far more realistic manner. They weren’t simply arranged or staged; they belonged together. Sounds also took on increased presence, solidity, and meaning. Strings weren’t doing merely doing their thing on their left while brass and percussion were blasting away on the right, with the brain working to hold it all together. Suddenly, everything was all of one piece. Not squished together, with sounds piled on atop the other. Not neatly arranged in a soundstage that is nothing like the real thing. Everything cohered in a manner that proclaimed “music” rather than “audiophile experience.”
Floored The noise silencing aspects of the Thor also worked their magic. Before the Thor entered the system, the ExactPower made music sound just a bit smoothed over and tame. It sounded quite good, mind you – some people would have done everything in their power to have a system that sounded as good – but the raw, transparent immediacy of the live event was more an idea than a reality. In retrospect, I’d say that it smoothed the leading edge of transients, and subtly reduced dynamics. The Thor did something very, very different. By further lowering the noise floor, lifting a level of haze that I didn’t realize was there until it was gone, and allowing all the dynamic gradations on the recording to come through, the Thor brought music to life as never before. There was a cleanness about the sound – a cleanness of attack and decay – that had nothing to do with sterile cookie cutter images and everything to do with real music-making. Thanks to greater silence, instruments and voices had a more realistic leading edge and greater three-dimensional impact. With less haze, I was able to hear farther into the music, and better distinguish individual instrumental threads in a complex musical fabric. It was as though Salomé had finally dropped her seventh veil, and allowed us to see for the first time what she was really about. While I do not have a five-channel (or more) home theater rig with a huge projection or plasma screen, I do own an antiquated 26” TV and a basic DVD player. The Thor’s effect on picture quality was marked. Colors became far more vivid, drawing me deeper into the experience. Conclusions There are always more levels of grunge to remove, more levels of detail to reveal, brighter colors to revel in. Better cables, Bybee devices, better racks and equipment supports, and bass management/room correction systems are among the many devices that enable you to hear deeper into the music without changing speakers and electronics. The higher a system’s resolution, the more you can hear detail revealed by close-miking that you would never hear in a concert hall (which is far from silent due to air conditioning, program rustling, coughing, and occasional cell phone outbursts). But the Thor accomplishes so much with so little effort that its effects are stunning. I find it uncomfortable to think of my former system as the aural equivalent of a paint-by-numbers canvas masquerading as a work of art. But, in retrospect, if it was nowhere near that bad, it was certainly an expert forgery pretending to be the real thing. The Thor changed all that. Gone were the little boxes, the tidy arrangements, and the perfectly placed lines. Instead was something new, whole, vibrant and organic. Music became alive, whole, and infinitely more compelling. The Thor doesn’t simply distribute power. It brings life. Need I say that the Thor is now a permanent part of my reference system?
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Comments (21)
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I'm surprised people can hear music at all BS like this hits their ears
written by Kurt , April 17, 2008 Jason, In your description of your reference system, you forgot to mention the huge, pyramid-shaped object you place over your abode to prevent all the bull s--t you toss up into the air coming down and burying everything. I'll wager $100,000 that with a blindfold on, you can't identify whether you equipment is plugged into the Thor or the wall. Editors of HTHF, Reviews like this are such an embarrassment! No doubt your other contributors, many of whom are highly competent and go to a great deal of effort to write accurate evaluations equipment actually does impact the reproduction of music, are ashamed to have their names listed alongside Jasons.
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written by JEJ , April 17, 2008 Although I (and apparently most of our readership) am not a big fan of this kind of component (I do have a PS Audio P1200, but that is an entirely different beast because it converts the AC to DC then regenerates a perfect 60 Hz sine wave with no noise or harmonics), we must respect the rights and opinions of every audiophile. Jason says he can hear a difference with this component, and he has a right to state what he hears. I want to have a wide variety of opinions and interests here at Secrets. If all the writers agreed with each other all the time, it would be very boring.
Audiophile grade fuse?
written by Chris , April 18, 2008 I couldn't read past where Mr. Serinus said he replaced the stock fuse with an audiophile grade one. So in $3300 power component you get a 25-cent fuse? Pathetic!
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written by roy in indy , April 19, 2008 Just more crap from a guy who flunked a blind listening test two years ago regarding cables. Didn't learn a thing apparently.
It is pathetic
written by Mr. General , April 19, 2008 Remember. Mr. Jason Serinus, was also the reviewer for these ‘magic mats’ for HTS a couple of years back. Marigo Labs Signature 3-D disc transforms http://marigoaudio.com/secrets.htm You place them in tray and they where to create some additional quality of sound, only Jason, could hear. After 380 laughing replies on the AVS forum the moderator had to close the thread. I am astounding both HTS & Stereophile editor’s even let him write. It is pathetic. Mr. General
I think the fuse was for another piece of equipment
written by Hifiman , April 20, 2008 I'm sorry, I'll stick up for Serinus and his reviews. They're always good for a laugh.
April Fool's Day Joke?
written by mike , April 20, 2008 You're kidding right? The snide "in God we trust" comment (out of left field); praising ceramic pucks and special (expensive) power... this has to be a joke. A little too dry, though. It almost - almost - reads like the guy was serious.
Strange but true
written by ewoutvs , April 21, 2008 Has any of the commenters who find it necessary to mock Serinus and this review ever tried this piece of equipment or an equivalent in their system? If not then I suggest you give it a try. Since a few days I own a Isotek GII minisub (which is in essence a budget version of the Thor) and although sceptic of the effect it would have on the sound I was pleasantly surprised. In my ears it lowers the noisefloor and in doing so it makes a lot of information that is in recordings audible. The effect, again: to my ears, is an expanded soundstage, a more atmospheric presentation and greater contrast in dynamics. To me it is the best investment (€ 400,- second hand) I have done so far in search of great sound at home.
at least offer an objective opinion
written by stupified in seattle , April 21, 2008 "we must respect the rights and opinions of every audiophile" Internet discussion boards are there so that even the most blatant of idiots can get their opinions out. We look to your online site for quality reviews.
Serinus Thor Review
written by Charles , April 21, 2008 It would seem to me that instead of carping about the subjectivity of the Thor review, it would be more profitable to borrow a unit, put it into your system, and then write a comment about what you do or don't hear in contrast to what Serenus hears. It would seem to me that all of the comments above save one or two are only so much blather. Paraphrasing: read them and pass on.
Serinus Thor Review
written by Charles , April 21, 2008 I would echo ewoutvs. Commentary on the Thor without listening to the unit adds up to what may only be uninformed assumptions. Were I in the market for a unit of this sort, I would definitely try the Thor after reading Serinus' review. And if I would hear what Serinus hears, I'd buy it and be thankful.
Serinus and Music
written by RichardAllen3 , April 22, 2008 I read Jason's music reviews, which I find are a good directed towards music that I would not normally be learned enough to find. However, his equuipment reviews tend towards what I call voodoo hi-fi. A well designed amplifier would eliminate any power noise. If it didn't it wouldn't be well designed and should not be purchased. This is akin to the great power cord debate, wherein the final 3 feet of wire in a 6 mile long, multi transformer, aluminum wiring, non oxegen free copper ya-da, ya-da, ya-da but this last three feet of OFC, teflon coated wire will make the sound better. I don't think so for any of this stuff.
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written by Henry , April 22, 2008 I may disagree with Mr. Serinus' views on audio and by implication on politics but I respect his knowledge in audio as it vastly exceeds my own. But, it detracts from the quality of the dialog I believe we all have a right to expect when some people write belittling and mocking comments which add nothing of value.
Good lord this is some deep dookie I'm wading thru...
written by Audionut71 , April 28, 2008 If this thing has "proprietary Quantum Resonant Technology (QRT) that significantly lowers the noise floor in the system. You can actually measure the improvement in the audio waveform of a piece of music with the Thor in place." then why not test it and show the results????? At least they could've put a little Flux Capacitor on the front of this thing instead of the annoying LED. And if Mr. Serinus was not happy with the heft of the Thor why not put one of his Japanese audiophile bricks on top, they make everything sound better, right? Bottom line, reviews without objective test results are an extra avenue for Marketing Departments to spew crapola. You fine folks know better, thats why you created the benchmarks. However this rube does create a tremendous amount of feedback, I guess that must be the point. Did I just get the joke? Maybe I'm slow...
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written by The Dude , May 01, 2008 Wow. I read something like this, and I think to myself, "Are you that desperate for advertising dollars?" Don't these type of reviews belong with the sheep over at Audio Asylum.
Show me the measurements
written by Jon Watte , May 01, 2008 It says you can measure the improvement. For sure, a resonant peak filter tuned at 60 Hz will filter out harmonic and inharmonic noise outside the peak. If you have poorly constructed equipment, then such noise might even make it into the output signal. So, if it actually works, I would expect a magazine to do something I can't easily do myself: hook the unit up, and actually measure the effect. Just because a guy on the phone says you can measure it, doesn't mean that's necessarily true. If you can measure the effect, then that's very valuable information (and validation for the Thor). Then get a $60 Tripp-Lite ISOBAR Ultra and compare if it measures better or worse. It's not as pretty, that's for sure, and cosmetics has to count for something.
The Emperor Has No Clothes!
written by Bill Whitlock , May 07, 2008 About a year ago, I was given a sample Nordost Thor for engineering evaluation and my opinion. The short answer is that, functionally, it's nothing more than a surge suppressor (a pair of MOVs that only begin to function at 320 volts rms as opposed to the normal 130 volts) and a 0.15 uF capacitor across the incoming power line. All outlets are directly connected to incoming power. Wait, there's more! There's an impressive-looking common-mode choke and other filter components, too. Unfortunately, they don't do anything to the unit's output power - they only filter power for the blue LED. And then there's the circuit board that has a life of its own - literally. It consists of a cheap Asian-made switching power supply (tie-wrapped to the PCB) whose 5-volt DC output powers a PIC micro-controller that apparently generates the "magic" - but it has no actual output or function (unless you believe in the old "Tice Clock" absurdity I suppose). I generated a complete schematic of the unit. It is truly over-priced "snake oil" for those who prefer belief over actual engineering. For the record, I'm not just a hobbyist with an opinion. I'm a Fellow of the Audio Engineering Society and a Senior Member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers. I'm a recognized expert on power, grounding, and "ground loop" issues. I write and teach extensively and hold several patents - including the technology embodied in the Exact Power regulator. I know there's an entire industry that will be angered by this, but I believe the kind of hype in the review borders on immorality!
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written by JEJ , May 07, 2008 I am sure you are well qualified engineering-wise to comment, but the fact that you own a patent on the technology in a competeting product (Exact Power) does put the damper on the validity of your opinion. However, I would like you to expand on the PIC micro-controller and what you think it is supposed to do, as well as what the old Tice Clock thing is.
Show me plenty measurements
written by Random Dude , May 08, 2008 I'd be really interested in measurements of the improvements this kind of device allegedly provides. If possible, measure with various devices (pre-amplifiers with switching an conventional power supplies, conventional power amps and class "D" amps, maybe one or two old devices where the sieve capacitors have lost their capacity over time).
Just a thought
written by matt , September 02, 2008 Given the chap seems to have shelled out a lot of money on a few valhalla power cords, can we not assume he at least actually rather likes them. The Thor simply extends that synergy one step furthur, and certainly from my own rather cheaper end of the nordost spectrum (Vishnus & blue heaven cables), the more synergy the better the sound gets. I also have a isotek g2 unit, and certainly wouldnt go back to "just the wall". Just my ha'porths worth:)
We know so little
written by John Oakman , September 20, 2008 I would ask our engineer friend to define the difference between the voice of the late Alfredo Kraus & the late Pavarotti.Without known numeric models(proven by numerous blind tests)would our Fellow of AES be able to identify through measurement :- 1)The type of voice Lyric tenor,dramatic tenor etc 2)The actual piece of music he was singing 3)The language of performance 4)The intrinsic tonal differences between both singers 5)Individual singers interpretations I welcome a response Write comment
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