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You may have noticed that we have changed the look and feel of this latest shootout. If you have not yet read the Guide to the Progressive Scan Shootouts, then please do so before continuing. If you do not read the guide before hand, you may not understand the new system. We have also worked hard to move over the previous shootouts to the new look. You can now view all shootouts at once.
We also recommend you read the latest updates to Part 5 of the DVD Benchmark and the Chroma Upsampling Error.
The Test Results
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Microsoft - Xbox 360 HD DVD Add-On
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| Passed | Borderline | Failed | Not Tested |
| Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Video Levels Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Recovery Time Motion Adaptive | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Incorrect Progressive Flags | ||
Last year, Microsoft delivered their next generation gaming platform, the Xbox 360. This platform combined state of the art high definition gaming with media console features, making it a well rounded entertainment hub. When we tested the 360 in our DVD benchmark, it set the bar for performance from a game console with DVD playback. Since then, Microsoft has offered several software updates through Xbox Live and has recently shipped out the HD DVD add-on. This add-on allows the 360 to play back the new HD DVD format on top of standard DVD support. We decided to test the add-on as a standard DVD player to see if Microsoft has indeed raised the bar again. The HD add-on is relatively small and reminds me of the older stand-alone Jazz drives that you could attach to PCs or laptops. Its shape and aesthetics are very similar to the main console, and connection to the 360 console is made through a simple USB cable. The add-on comes with a CD that walks you through setting the drive up. The performance of the add-on is very similar to the 360 as a standard DVD player. Like the main console, the resolution is limited to 480p. The console supports resolutions of up to 1080p, but the DVD forum mandates that all DVD players limit their analog video outputs to 480p, so I guess we’re stuck with that for awhile. All of the video processing and de-interlacing is done in software, and Microsoft developed all of their own codes for this. They did quite a good job, but fell short of what you might expect from a high-line progressive scan DVD player. This player does not seem to be cadence based, but rather relies on the flags to decide how to de-interlace. This makes it quick to recover from a hiccup in the flags, but combing is evident at each hiccup. The add-on passed the same tests as the 360, but this time it passed our Bad Edits test. The add-on failed most of our tests that have breaks in cadence or flags. This is what separates a good progressive scan player from a great one. There is a reason that names like Gennum, Faroudja, and ABT have become synonymous with great DVD playback. Rather than rely on the disc's flags (which are usually poor), they examine the cadence of the material and make smarter decisions on how to combine the progressive fields and deliver a progressive image. For video based material, the add-on is average. It passed our motion adaptive tests but does not feature any diagonal line processing for video-based material. Jaggies were abundant using the 3-Clocks test on the Silicon Optix Benchmark DVD. On the core side, the add-on does extremely well. Response times have not changed at all. This is a really fast transport, and navigation is basically instantaneous. It is almost unnerving how fast this player navigates menus and chapters. I wish some of the DVD player manufacturers would take note. The layer change is nearly seamless, and clocked in just under a half a second. Core video performance is also quite good. The add-on passed all of our CUE tests with the exception of the 4:2:0 ICP test, which requires an extra chroma filter to pass. There are no signs of Y/C delay, and pixel cropping is limited to 2 pixels on the left and 1 on the bottom. All of the video levels are correct, and this player passes below-black and above-white information. The output retains the full resolution of both the luma and chroma signal, and the analog video frequency response remains unchanged from the original 360 console. Conclusions We will be serving up a complete review of the HD DVD add-on very shortly that will cover the full capabilities of this accessory as a HD DVD player. For now, the add-on continues the performance of the 360 as a stand-alone DVD player and continues to set the bar as a game console-based DVD player. At only $199 (for current 360 owners of course), this thing is a steal.
Video Frequency Response
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Microsoft - Xbox 360
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| Passed | Borderline | Failed | Not Tested |
| Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Video Levels Blacker-than-Black Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Video to Film Transition Recovery Time Motion Adaptive | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP YC Delay 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Bad Edit Incorrect Progressive Flags | ||
This is actually the first time I’ve tested a console gaming system for the DVD Benchmark. I realize that Sony launched a progressive version of the Playstation 2 at one point, but I wasn’t about to buy it again just for the sake of reviewing it. I bought an Xbox 360 as a present to myself for Christmas this year, and I thought it would be a nice inclusion into this month’s Benchmark. Plus, I was a bit curious as to how it would do in our round of tests. The Xbox 360 is the followup to Microsoft’s first attempt in the console hardware market. In fact, the original Xbox was the first product I ever reviewed for Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity back in 2002. I was quite impressed with the first Xbox from a gaming system point of view, but it left a lot to be desired as a DVD playback machine. Despite the fact that all of the Xbox games were rendered in 480p and the Xbox supported a high definition component output, DVD playback was mitigated to 480i. The Xbox 360 is another beast entirely and has little in common with the original version. I will follow this Benchmark up with a full review of the console in March. The Xbox 360 supports full rendering at various resolutions including 480p, 720p, and 1080i for its games, but DVD playback is limited to 480p. This also requires that you purchase the high definition support pack that includes component video cables and a digital audio output (Toslink). This support pack is included in the premium kit, but it costs about $40 if you buy it separately. The video processing is handled by a 500MHz ATI graphics processor, but its de-interlacing capabilities seem a bit limited compared to some of the DVD players on the market today. In our de-interlacing tests the Xbox did about average overall and performed about the same as most players that use an all-in-one MPEG decoder/video processing solution. Basic cadences with no flag issues are handled fine, but once there is a break in cadence or bad flag, the results will vary. The player is a flag reader and is extremely quick to recover from a bad flag or break in cadence. As you can see from our results, it will hiccup quite often. The Xbox 360’s core performance was a bit of a mixed bag. The player doesn’t really have any issues at all with chroma upsampling. It does suffer from the common 4:2:0 ICP CUE issue, but as we’ve reported before, this takes special filters to hide. Its severity is not bad at all here and was actually one of the better players I’ve tested in this regard. The 360 passes a below black pluge, but its default black level is 7.5 IRE with no way of adjusting it to 0 IRE. You’ll have to adjust your display accordingly, as black levels will appear elevated. The white level of this player is a tad low at 98 IRE but still within our passing criteria. I wish manufacturers would pay closer attention to their output levels, as a properly calibrated display will have to be re-adjusted for these issues. Pixel cropping is pretty much a non-issue. The bottom of the image crops 2 pixels, while the right crops 1. The 360 does suffer from over a full pixel of Y/C delay with DVDs though. The video frequency response of the component video output is very good, with only a small decline in the upper frequency range. The image is not what I would categorize as soft, but it is not nearly as sharp as the digital players I normally use in my system. Hopefully Microsoft will eventually add support for a digital connection like HDMI; they have already commented that they will support it when they feel the time is right. Word to Microsoft: the time is right now! The user interface for this player is a mixed bag. There are three solutions you can use: the controller, a small media remote, or the large media remote. The latter two are sold separately, although the small media remote is packaged with the premium Xbox 360 package ($399.99). For my testing, I only used the small media remote as I don’t have a need for the really big one. The big one does add more interface options though, such as number keys and more media center quick keys. The small remote only handles the most basic functions, such as menu and title keys, and general operation buttons (Play, Stop, Skip, Display). You can also adjust the subtitle, audio track, and zoom. Overall, this is a pretty weak remote, so I highly recommend that anyone who plans on using the 360 for DVD playback buy the larger media remote. The console is extremely fast at navigation and is very intuitive. It almost makes me feel slow as it glides through menus. Load times are great, and the layer change clocked in under a half second. The console is a bit on the loud side like most HTPCs. During DVD playback, some of the core processors shut down and reduce radiated noise, but I can still hear the thing over just about any other piece of gear I have, including the rather noisy DLP projector I have on loan from a friend right now, so a word of caution there. Conclusions The Xbox 360 is a pretty good DVD player, given its primary purpose. Its performance is pretty close to the average DVD player at this price point, but given that it is supposed to be using one of the best graphics cards out there, I was hoping for a bit more on the de-interlacing side. With all of its other features though, I still think this console is incredible in scope for entertainment, but I’ll reserve that for the feature article.
Video Frequency Response
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Microsoft - Windows Media Center 1.0
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| Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Video to Film Transition Recovery Time | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Bad Edit Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Video Levels Blacker-than-Black YC Delay | |
This is Microsoft's first serious attempt to create a platform for a complete
media center for a home. It combines music playback, DVD playback, still picture
display, live TV, and a personal video recorder. The interface is fairly
intuitive, and all the core functionality is available from an integrated
infrared remote. We only evaluated the DVD player. This is a unique product because the configuration we tested is only one of
many possible configurations, and the final results will vary based on the
hardware used. Even the software the PC manufacturer uses makes a difference,
because Windows XP Media Center doesn't include a DVD decoder. Instead it relies
on whatever decoder is installed on the machine, though it does integrate it
into the Media Center UI. For our setup we used an nVidia 4600Ti video card and the NVDVD decoder, which
was developed in-house by nVidia. From our testing, we believe the Ti offers the
best deinterlacing within the nVidia family, and NVDVD 2.22 offers the best
decoding available right now. ATI video cards also do well when using the
Catalyst 2.4 drivers, with the exception of the 9700. As of this writing the video
drivers for the 9700 were not ready for prime time. The machine we used was provided by the eHome team at Microsoft. The display
drivers we used for testing were version 40.80, which at that time were unsigned
drivers. 41.09 are the most recent drivers available from nVidia. You can also
purchase NVDVD 2.22 directly from the
nVidia website for $39.95. Deinterlacing The new nVidia hardware and software is supposedly designed to offer two
features that had been previously unavailable on an HTPC: cadence-based film
mode analysis (instead of flag-based), and motion-adaptive deinterlacing.
Unfortunately, we were unable to see cadence analysis in action. No matter how
we set the drivers and settings, we still got results that clearly pointed to
flag reading. We did get motion-adaptive deinterlacing working, and it's a great step in
the right direction for handling video content. However, what we saw still
didn't look nearly as good as the best motion-adaptive video deinterlacing in
chips such as the Silicon Image SiI504 or Genesis FLI2200, or even Sony's DRC
chips. The test patterns we used didn't look quite right, as though one field
was dominant and the other recessive. We suspect that the algorithm nVidia is
using uses one field as the primary source for the final frame, and mixes in
some of the other field in order to improve the vertical resolution. But they
appear to not be giving each field an equal share. One field would generally be
dimmer in the final mix, and the other field brighter, as though the temporal
filter coefficients weren't 50/50. In addition, on the Video Essentials Zone
Plate it just wouldn't give us a full-resolution image, even on the film-mode
section. By our standards, that's a fail. Since we weren't able to get cadence reading working, we had to fail the player
on essentially all the "unusual flag" tests. The Basics The interface was smooth and refined, with generally well designed menus and
graphics. Navigating the menus to get to the various functions like DVD playback
was easy. The remote felt very much like a DVD remote, and had most of the
standard buttons. There were some odd exceptions. For example, the remote has
only one menu button, labeled "DVD menu," whereas a DVD player always has two,
labeled "menu" and "top menu." After some experimentation, we found that the
"DVD menu" button corresponds to "top menu," which is the button on a DVD player
that navigates to the topmost menu on the disc. We found this incredibly
annoying, as we're used to using the normal "menu" button to return to the last
menu visited. If you're several levels deep in the menu system, play some video,
realize you've made a mistake, and want to go back to the menu you were just
looking at, Media Center has no way to do that. In addition, the remote has no "subtitle" button, "audio" button, or "angle"
button. These are all standard DVD buttons, and on some discs, you need to use
them to access features. Media Center has an incredibly convoluted and
non-standard way of selecting subtitles and audio tracks that we are sure would
not work with some discs. To select a subtitle or audio track, one must navigate to the Media Center
menu, go several menus deep into the options, and then select a subtitle
language from a huge list of essentially every available language that a DVD
could use. To get to German, for example, you have to go through Armenian,
Azerbaijanian, Basque, etc. by pressing a button many many times. You get the
same set huge of languages to choose from no matter what languages are available
on the disc. Who thought this was a good idea? As a method of setting your
"preferred" subtitle language, it makes some sort of sense. As a primary method
of changing subtitles, it's terrible. And what happens if a disc has three or
four "English" audio tracks, as many often do? There isn't any way to
distinguish between them. You can, in most cases, change audio tracks from the
DVD's own menus, but if you're used to starting the movie and hitting the
"audio" button to get to a commentary track or switch to the 5.1 audio, Media
Center doesn't offer that as an option. The end result is that Media Center feels almost like a standalone DVD
player, but the omissions and deviations from the DVD standards are frustrating.
Still, it's by far the best out-of-box UI for an HTPC that we've ever seen. For
most people, these menu issues will be minor annoyances; the core UI
functionality works fine. The overall picture quality from the hardware and NVDVD was excellent. Like
other HTPCs, there is no pixel cropping and extremely clean video with almost no
visible ringing or noise. Of course like most video cards, there are no
anti-imaging filters other than basic EMF and RMI because a PC video card must
run at several different scan rates and you can only really design a filter for
one scan rate. The chroma upsampling in nDVD is the best we have seen from any
DVD player. As a DVD player, Windows XP Media Center (with NVDVD decoder) worked well, in
fact better than any HTPC we've looked at so far. The remote gives you most of
the feel and usability of a standalone player, which has been a sore point for
many people who are uncomfortable with using a PC as a media hub. The
deinterlacing still isn't at the level of the best
standalone players, but it's come leaps and bounds in the last year or so.