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You may have noticed that we have changed the look and feel of this latest shootout. If you have not yet read the Guide to the Progressive Scan Shootouts, then please do so before continuing. If you do not read the guide before hand, you may not understand the new system. We have also worked hard to move over the previous shootouts to the new look. You can now view all shootouts at once.

We also recommend you read the latest updates to Part 5 of the DVD Benchmark and the Chroma Upsampling Error.

The Test Results

   Pass    Borderline
   Fail    Not Tested

Player data table:

DVD Player Results
General Deinterlacing Core
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags Weight: 10, From DVD: WHQL, Film Mode 1 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags Weight: 8, From DVD: WHQL, Film Mode 2 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags Weight: 7, From DVD: More Tales of the City 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Weight: 6, From DVD: WHQL, Chapter Break 1 and 2 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Weight: 5, From DVD: Natural Splendors Chapter 6, Avia Zone Plate Film Mode High Detail Weight: 6, From DVD: Super Speedway Bad Edit Weight: 10, From DVD: Big Lebowski, Making-of Video to Film Transition Weight: 6, From DVD: WHQL, Mixed Mode 1 Recovery Time Weight: 6, From DVD: WHQL, Mixed Mode 1 Incorrect Progressive Flags Weight: 6, From DVD: Apollo 13, Making-of; Galaxy Quest Menu Motion Adaptive Weight: 10, From DVD: Video Essentials, Zone Plate; Sage Pendulum Sync Subtitle to Frames Weight: 2, From DVD: Abyss Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Weight: 10, From DVD: Toy Story, Chapter 4 Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Weight: 8, From DVD: Monsters, Inc. Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Weight: 8, From DVD: Toy Story Main Menu. (3-disc set only) Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Weight: 5, From DVD: More Tales of the City Video Levels Weight: 8, From DVD: Avia, Horizontal Gray Ramp Blacker-than-Black Weight: 7, From DVD: Video Essentials, PLUGE pattern YC Delay Weight: 10, From DVD: Video Essentials, Bowtie Image Cropping Weight: 4, From DVD: Avia, Pixel Cropping Pattern Layer Change Weight: 4, From DVD: WHQL, Title Roll Responsiveness Weight: 6, From DVD: Avia Menus
DV-SP1000> Default 92 14.5
DV-SP1000> Default 88 1014.5
DV-SP502> Default 73 54
DVS-939 Auto 41 771.752.5
DV-SP800 Auto1 38 65121.252.5
DV-CP802 Default 36 1.54


Notes on individual players:

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Onkyo - DV-SP1000

MPEG Maker: unknown
MPEG Model: unknown
Deinterlacer Maker: Silicon Image
Deinterlacer Model: SIL-504
   
MSRP: $2000.00
Website: http://www.onkyousa.com

DV-SP1000 (HDMI) - Default

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Recovery Time
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames

DV-SP1000 (Component) - Default

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Recovery Time
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Image Cropping
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames

The Onkyo DV-SP1000 is a player I have been trying to get hold of for quite some time now. As most readers of the Benchmark know, I have not been a big fan of Onkyo’s previous DVD players and their reliance on all-in-one MPEG decoder/de-interlacers. The SP-1000 changed that stance and incorporates the popular and very capable Silicon Image SIL504 video processing chip.

This switch-out made a huge difference in performance for Onkyo and puts the SP-1000 in the category of being one of the best DVD players on the market today. The SIL504’s abilities with film based de-interlacing have been heralded time and again at Secrets, and its performance in the DV-SP1000 is no exception. The SP1000 delivered a very clean image devoid of the issues we were seeing with their older players.

The chip passed all of our de-interlacing tests including those for 2-2 material. This chip has a faster recovery time than the Genesis FLI-2310 and doesn’t suffer from any of the macroblocking issues that have been so common on most upscaling DVD players. But that doesn’t mean that this chip doesn’t have its limitations and clear weaknesses.

Currently there are two chipsets on the market that are incorporating advanced diagonal line processing. Those are the FLI series chips from Genesis/Faroudja and the HQV chip from Silicon Optix. Unfortunately, the Silicon Image chip just cannot compete with these solutions in terms of video-based material, and more specifically, diagonal line processing. This is extremely evident with video-based material such as DVDs of TV programs and a lot of Anime or animated features.

A great test for diagonal line processing is found on Silicon Optix’s new Benchmark DVD. Using the three angles test resulted in some pretty horrible jaggies along the edges of all three angles. I also looked at some older Sage-produced test clips that showed obvious jaggies.

Another downside of the SIL504 chip is the 8 bit video processing. Despite the HDMI output of the SP-1000, banding was still evident in gray scale ramps. This is not as much of an issue right now since most digital displays still have 8 bit internal processing, but it will become an issue as these displays start incorporating higher bit processing. The Genesis and Silicon Optix solutions do all of their processing at the 10 bit level. Having the higher resolution processing eliminates artifacts such as banding and gradiations that are pretty common with DVD and digital displays.

Of course there is more to a DVD player than de-interlacing. Great de-interlacing will not make up for a sub-par DVD player in the core performance department. Onkyo has been hit or miss in this department in the past, but this time around they got all their ducks in line.

The SP1000 has absolutely no Y/C delay via component or HDMI. This lends to a cleaner image devoid of the ghosting effect that Y/C delay will bring to an image from misalignment.

The analog frequency response is quite respectable but a tad down in the upper frequencies. This may lead to a slightly softer image than some players, but this is a non-issue if you use the preferred HDMI output. Pixel cropping was a tad excessive, with 4 pixels cropped from the bottom of the image and a combined 6 pixels from the left and right sides.

For our chroma tests, the SP1000 did modestly. This player has no chroma issues with traditional film based 3-2 material and 2-2 material. But flickering and some banding was noticed with 3-2 material with alternating progressive flags. This will cause some artifacts with some of the popular Disney animated DVDs on the market including Monsters INC and Finding Nemo. One of the plus sides of the Silicon Image chip is its full retention of the chroma resolution. This player's vertical chroma resolution was excellent.

The SP-1000 passes a below black pluge via both component and HDMI. It has a selection range for HDMI that will also allow for PC RGB levels if necessary. The default white level for the component output was a very respectable 99 IRE.

Overall, the user interface is excellent, with clean, easy to navigate menus that are very responsive. Access times for the player were quick, and menu navigation and chapter skips were almost instantaneous. Using our full bit rate layer change test, the SP-1000 measured in at a quick one second.

Some of the other highlights of this player include full support of both DVD-Audio and SACD. The player not only features the typical analog multi-channel RCA outputs but also a Firewire output compatible with both high resolution formats. This makes the SP1000 one of the few players offering a complete digital transport solution for both video and audio. Unfortunately it does not support the newest version of HDMI though, i.e., the 1.1 spec. This would allow for transmission of high resolution PCM audio like that found on DVD-Audio discs. The SP1000 is limited to Dolby Digital, DTS, and standard resolution PCM via the HDMI output.

Summary: Not since the Pioneer Elite 59AVi have I seen such a huge turnaround from one of the bigger electronics companies. The DV-SP1000 is a great step in the right direction for Onkyo and I hope a sign of things to come on this front. The SP1000 joins the ranks of my highest recommended players on the market today and is an excellent value.

Video Frequency Response
Onkyo

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Onkyo - DV-SP502 Universal DVD Player

MPEG Maker: Mediatek
MPEG Model: MT1389EE
Deinterlacer Maker: Mediatek
Deinterlacer Model: MT1389EE
   
MSRP: $300.00
Website: http://www.onkyousa.com

DV-SP502 Universal DVD Player - Default

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Recovery Time
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Image Cropping
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags

If there is one thing that has become increasingly popular in the DVD player market, it is rebadging. When you go into a store and look at the selection of DVD players on the shelf, you’d probably be surprised to know that most of them have basically the same electronics. The problem is that it's very expensive to design a player from the ground up and to recover the research and development costs. But if a larger outfit can come up with a good design that is well implemented, it can sell that design to other manufacturers and recover those costs.

The most popular example of this has to be Pioneer. In my experience, there isn’t a design that's copied more than theirs, from their Elite models to their bargain line. So, Pioneer has the market corned in terms of replicas, and the copies span the entire price range. Some of them are exactly the same as the Pioneer model, with the exception of the outer shells, but that sell for considerably more than the platform they are based on.

The SP-502 is a rebadged Pioneer player, but thankfully it does not fall into the category of duping its customer base. The 502 is a replica of the popular DV-588a, which is one of the best low priced universal players on the market today. The 502 does come in at a higher premium though. It is listed at $100 more then its Pioneer counterpart, but Onkyo has made improvements in the build and look of the player. Whether this is important to you or not is the question. Personally I liked the look of the Onkyo far more then the Pioneer and appreciated its spit and polish in comparison.

De-interlacing

Like the 588, the SP-502 revolves around the Mediatek all-in-one MPEG decoder/video processing chip. This chip definitely has its pluses and minuses, but overall it isn’t bad. In the world of low cost all-in-one solutions, the Mediatek is one of the better chips, but it still isn’t to the level of even Pioneer’s proprietary Pure Cinema solutions (despite the moniker on the Pioneer counterpart).

The Mediatek is an extremely fast chip, and this is probably its most favorable attribute. The user is treated to quick navigation, excellent chapter skip speed, and completely seamless layer changes. While these things don’t improve its video performance, they are appreciated in the day-to-day use of the player. Nothing is more frustrating than a player that lags at every command, but the SP-502 won’t do any of that.

Unlike some Mediatek players, the SP-502 is motion adaptive and cadence-based. It still has troubles with some of our more difficult tests like chapter breaks and 3-2 video flags, but it does well with the most common problems on DVDs today. It also does considerably well with 2-2 based material. This comes in handy with video-based material such as TV DVDs. Unfortunately, like most budget video solutions, there is no diagonal line processing. This results in obvious jaggies with video-based material. This was clearly evident with the test patterns on the new HQV test disc and some of the Sage test material I have available. If you like to watch a lot of video-based material (such as old TV programs released on DVD), I would still recommend seeking a player that incorporates Faroudja’s DCDi video processing.

Core Performance

The core performance of this player was decent, but it had a few shortcomings. Like the DV-588, the DV-SP502 does not pass a below black pluge. I wish companies that decide to use designs already available on the market would research the shortcomings of the design and make the necessary changes. Onkyo could have set itself apart from the Pioneer by offering all the positives of the design, and none of the negatives. Instead, they chose to just leave it alone, problems and all. This is also the case with the Y/C delay performance. The 502 has over a full pixel of Y/C delay using a bowtie pattern from Video Essentials and a digital Oscilloscope. This was another issue inherent in the design.

On the plus side, the Onkyo has excellent chroma performance. The Mediatek chip is one of the best chips out there in regards to handling chroma upsampling. There was no evidence of CUE issues except with the common ICP problem that is inherent in the DVD design. Pixel cropping was not a major issue. There were 5 pixels cropped from the left side but the remaining sides were fine. The white level of the player was also a very decent 101 IRE.

Universal audio support on this product is exactly the same as the Pioneer. The main DVD board which contains all of the processing is identical. For a player at this price point, the Onkyo does an excellent job with both DVD-A and SACD. While it can’t contend with its big brother the SP-1000, those looking for a low cost solution will probably be very happy with this player’s performance.

Conclusions

So, if you had to choose between the Onkyo and Pioneer, they are so similar it really won’t matter from a performance standpoint. The question really comes down to what you want to spend and what you want to look at on your A/V stand. Personally I prefer the looks of the Onkyo and the features on the front panel, but those can be easily overlooked by the savings you get with the Pioneer.

Video Frequency Response
Onkyo

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Onkyo - DVS-939

MPEG Maker: Zoran
MPEG Model: Vaddis IV
Deinterlacer Maker: Genesis
Deinterlacer Model: gmVLX1A and gmAMFC
   
MSRP: $1799.95
Website: http://www.onkyousa.com

DVS-939 - Auto

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
YC Delay
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Layer Change
Recovery Time
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Blacker-than-Black
Sync Subtitle to Frames
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Motion Adaptive
Video Levels
Image Cropping

These are all essentially the same, except that the 9200 and the Onkyo are heavier, and play DVD-Audio discs. Since we didn’t test DVD-Audio in this showdown, we’ll cover all three together. The 9200 and 939 had slightly different results on the de-interlacing tests, so it may be that Toshiba has tweaked the Genesis chip to optimize for different performance.

These players use the Genesis chipset, and it shows. They are cadence-reading players, and they comb on lots of material. On "More Tales of the City", they combed on at least 75% of the cuts, and generally for multiple frames, making the DVD basically unwatchable unless you switch to video mode. On "The Big Lebowski" making-of montage, it also combed badly, and again we would expect it to do poorly on just about any other making-of documentary. Even in major Hollywood movies like "Independence Day" and "Toy Story", we saw combing, though perhaps only once every few minutes. Frankly, this player and its cousins were below the bar for us as far as deinterlacing performance.

However, on the good side, it’s quick and easy to switch de-interlacing modes, so if you see artifacts that are annoying you, it’s easy to force it into video mode. You don’t even need to stop the movie. We wish, though, that it wasn’t necessary quite so often.

The video quality was good, though there was some ringing that we couldn’t get rid of with the controls. We would highly recommend setting Edge Enhancement to Off, as any other setting produces incredibly ugly ringing that is noticeable on any material.

The players had the chroma upsampling bug, though not as bad as some. Still, it was clearly visible throughout "Toy Story". The problem will be visible on any film that has saturated red colors, but you might not see it if you don’t look for it.

On the Video Essentials Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate pattern, there was flicker in the left-hand patterns whenever the center pattern moved. This is because the video deinterlacing algorithm on the Genesis doesn't appear to be weaving stationary areas of the screen. This means that when objects are moving on screen, the resolution suffers for all areas, not just the moving areas.

These players all had a strange problem with certain movies, apparently all from Warner Brothers all released at about the same time. Portions of the screen would jitter or shimmer. Some described it as looking like a ripple, like seeing the image through water. It turns out that this effect happens only on certain films, and only when the "blacker-than-black" setting is turned on in the Setup menu. It's a strange problem.

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Onkyo - DV-SP800

MPEG Maker: Mitsubishi
MPEG Model: Unknown
Deinterlacer Maker: Pioneer
Deinterlacer Model: Unknown
   
MSRP: $1000.00
Website: http://www.onkyousa.com

DV-SP800 - Auto1

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Recovery Time
Motion Adaptive
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Video Levels
Image Cropping
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags

This is another player based on a Pioneer design similar to the 45A and 47A, though not exactly the same as either one. Like both of those players, it can play SACD and DVD-A as well as DVD-Video.

Deinterlacing

The deinterlacing on this player, like the Pioneers and the Marantz, is poor, especially at this MSRP. There really is no other way to describe it. It is, at the core, a flag-reading player with a cadence-reading solution for sequences where the progressive flag is not set. However, because it has little or no bad-edit detection, the player combs on tons of material.

The Basics

The downside of using another company's platform as a starting point for a player is that it inherits all of the flaws of the original. In this case, because of its lineage it suffers from the Chroma Upsampling Error, badly.

In its default position the white is around 102.5 IRE. This is just outside of our window of passing. It is possible to get it back down to a correct level with the player's own adjustments, though most consumers will not have the scope required to get this correct. Below is a screen shot of where we set the white level and sharpness to obtain the correct white level and flattest frequency response. We do want to note that we saw a bit of contouring when we started to lower the white level, which suggestions this is being done in the digital domain and may in fact be causing problems.

The mid section is a bit hot, but not outrageous.

The component timings for both Y-Pb and Y-Pr were within spec and this player is capable of reproducing below black picture information.

There were 4 lines cropped from the bottom of the image. We feel that any amount of pixel cropping from the top or bottom is unacceptable. There is no technical reason for it - the 480p spec allows for 480 visible lines, and 476 is 4 too few.

The layer change takes around 1.25 seconds to complete under the worst case scenario. We rated the overall response time of the player a 2.5.

When used with the Sony 10HT, there are faint vertical lines on-screen, probably as a result of outside interference leaking into the ground. We were able to get rid of this by pulling the luma cable out just until the shield was no longer touching. The Sony S9000ES had what looked like the same issue and Sony actually came up with a fix for it. Perhaps the same fix would work for this player.

As with its close siblings from Marantz and Pioneer, we just weren't impressed by this player, especially at its price point. That it is THX certified reduces further the credibility of THX as a certification standard.

Video Frequency Response
Onkyo

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Onkyo - DV-CP802

MPEG Maker: Mitsubishi
MPEG Model: unknown
Deinterlacer Maker: Mitsubishi
Deinterlacer Model: unknown
   
MSRP: $500.00
Website: http://www.onkyousa.com

DV-CP802 - Default

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Video to Film Transition
Recovery Time
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Image Cropping
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Bad Edit
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive

As most of you probably know, Onkyo, Integra, and Integra Research are all made by the same company. Each line usually expands in features and refinements, and at times the differences can be drastic. This is similar to the model you see with cars nowadays. Companies like Toyota. The offer their entry line, the Scion, then come in with their normal line, Toyota, then move up to their premiere line, Lexus. Most of these are built on the same platform, that platform is just tweaked or expanded on.

The Onkyo DV-CP802 is the same platform as the Integra DPC-8.5. The video side is almost identical with the only real standout difference being the frequency response. Everything else down to the menus is almost identical.

Like the Integra, the Onkyo is based on a Mitsubishi MPEG decoder and de-interlacing solution. This chip's all in one performance isn’t very good and reminds me more of an entry level player rather than something you’ll see from a respected brand like Onkyo or Integra. I think as a minimum, progressive DVD players should be motion adaptive at this price point.

The video frequency response of this player is a bit better then the Integra version, which I found surprising. But this player does have a pretty steady roll-off through its entire spectrum. This contributes to a softer image like the Integra. Y/C delay is still greater than 1 pixel, and this player did not pass a below-black signal.

Considering Onkyo’s reputation in the video and audio world, I was hoping for a better entry than this. Whatever chip they are using clearly doesn’t cut it, especially at this price point. Manufacturers need to start paying attention to the components they choose and what else is out there at a given price point. While I would recommend this one over the previously reviewed Toshiba changer, it wasn’t much of an improvement in the video department.

Video Frequency Response
Onkyo