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You may have noticed that we have changed the look and feel of this latest shootout. If you have not yet read the Guide to the Progressive Scan Shootouts, then please do so before continuing. If you do not read the guide before hand, you may not understand the new system. We have also worked hard to move over the previous shootouts to the new look. You can now view all shootouts at once.

We also recommend you read the latest updates to Part 5 of the DVD Benchmark and the Chroma Upsampling Error.

The Test Results

   Pass    Borderline
   Fail    Not Tested

Player data table:

DVD Player Results
General Deinterlacing Core
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags Weight: 10, From DVD: WHQL, Film Mode 1 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags Weight: 8, From DVD: WHQL, Film Mode 2 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags Weight: 7, From DVD: More Tales of the City 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Weight: 6, From DVD: WHQL, Chapter Break 1 and 2 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Weight: 5, From DVD: Natural Splendors Chapter 6, Avia Zone Plate Film Mode High Detail Weight: 6, From DVD: Super Speedway Bad Edit Weight: 10, From DVD: Big Lebowski, Making-of Video to Film Transition Weight: 6, From DVD: WHQL, Mixed Mode 1 Recovery Time Weight: 6, From DVD: WHQL, Mixed Mode 1 Incorrect Progressive Flags Weight: 6, From DVD: Apollo 13, Making-of; Galaxy Quest Menu Motion Adaptive Weight: 10, From DVD: Video Essentials, Zone Plate; Sage Pendulum Sync Subtitle to Frames Weight: 2, From DVD: Abyss Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Weight: 10, From DVD: Toy Story, Chapter 4 Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Weight: 8, From DVD: Monsters, Inc. Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Weight: 8, From DVD: Toy Story Main Menu. (3-disc set only) Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Weight: 5, From DVD: More Tales of the City Video Levels Weight: 8, From DVD: Avia, Horizontal Gray Ramp Blacker-than-Black Weight: 7, From DVD: Video Essentials, PLUGE pattern YC Delay Weight: 10, From DVD: Video Essentials, Bowtie Image Cropping Weight: 4, From DVD: Avia, Pixel Cropping Pattern Layer Change Weight: 4, From DVD: WHQL, Title Roll Responsiveness Weight: 6, From DVD: Avia Menus
DV9600 Un> Auto 3 92 4.5
DV9600 Un> Auto 3 92 4.5
DV9600 Un> Auto 2 92 154.5
DV9600 Un> Auto 2 92 4.5
DV9600 Un> Auto 1 85 154.5
DV9600 Un> Auto 1 85 4.5
DV-9500 (> Auto 2 82 1514
DV-9500 (> Auto 2 82 1514
DV-9500 (> Auto 3 78 1514
DV-9500 (> Auto 3 78 1514
DV-9500 (> Video 3 78 1514
DV-9500 (> Auto 1 78 1514
DV-9500 (> Video 2 78 1514
DV-9500 (> Auto 1 78 1514
DV-9500 (> Video 1 78 1514
DV-8400 Auto 1 59 13
DV8300 Auto1 38 55121.252.5


Notes on individual players:

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Marantz - DV9600 Universal DVD Player

MPEG Maker: Pioneer
MPEG Model: unknown
Deinterlacer Maker: Pioneer
Deinterlacer Model: unknown
   
MSRP: $2099.00
Website:

DV9600 Universal DVD Player (Component) - Auto 3

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Recovery Time
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP

DV9600 Universal DVD Player (HDMI) - Auto 3

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Recovery Time
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP

DV9600 Universal DVD Player (HDMI) - Auto 2

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Recovery Time
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP

DV9600 Universal DVD Player (Component) - Auto 2

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Recovery Time
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP

DV9600 Universal DVD Player (HDMI) - Auto 1

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Recovery Time
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Bad Edit

DV9600 Universal DVD Player (Component) - Auto 1

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Recovery Time
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Bad Edit

Very few DVD players surprise me anymore. Well, some of them surprise me as to how bad they are this late in the game, but pleasant surprises are rare. I had been corresponding with Marantz about getting their DV9600 since late summer of 2005, but there were none to spare. Luckily, an AVS Forum member, Kevin Brown, was nice enough to let me borrow one he just bought. In fact, he had it sent directly from the dealer. Now I am sure Kevin was looking to get a bit out of it, like positive confirmation that his player is worth the price of admission in my book, but it was still extremely generous of him, and we at Secrets are very appreciative. Now, the only problem is whether or not Kevin will ever actually get the player back!!!

Yup, that last line was no joke. The Marantz DV9600 represents probably the best digital DVD transport (for sending audio and video digital bitstreams) I’ve seen yet. Sure it has a few issues, but none that will bother me enough to not put this on my miniscule list of players that would fit my bill. Sure, the Marantz does a phenomenal job on its own as a DVD player, and I would be more than happy to use it that way, but since I am in the business of testing a lot of different processors, a solid digital transport to feed those processors is pretty much a must have, and the number of said transports is EXTREMELLY small. I remember talking with Dan Miller at CEDIA last year about the DV9600, he said that Marantz was unveiling their new S4 DLP projector which features the new Gennum VXP processor for video processing. Marantz wanted a solid DVD player that featured 480i support via HDMI, and thr DV9600 does exactly that.

However, that isn’t the only thing I like here. Marantz has really stepped it up this time. Some new features not seen on the previously reviewed DV9500, besides the 480i via HDMI, are scaling provided by Anchor Bay Technologies (the parent company of DVDO) which happens to be the same scaling chip as the highly regarded Denon DVD-5910, support for 1080p, and full compliance with the HDMI 1.1 spec including transmission of DVD-Audio. The DV9600 also has full support for SACD and iLink, for digital transmission of all high resolution formats with a matching processor or receiver. So, the DV9600 could be an all in one digital transport with the right receiver or processor in the mix.

Like the Marantz players before it, the 9600 is based on a Pioneer Elite transport. This includes their MPEG decoder and de-interlacing. Lucky for Marantz that Pioneer has really tweaked this processing over the last few years as evidenced by the recent 59 and 79AVi tests. The nice thing, though, is that the 9600 doesn’t have the same issues with high detail material that the Pioneer Elite DV79AVi does, making it far more ideal as a standalone DVD player. Couple that with ABT’s phenomenal scaling capabilities and you have an outstanding DVD player in just about every regard.

The core section of the DV9600 measured out very well, with only a few exceptions. The player has only a minute amount of pixel cropping. With 480p, 720p, and 1080i, the player only clips two pixels from the bottom of the image. With 480i, it clips one from the top and one from the bottom. Hardly anything to worry about (though we always prefer no cropping). The end user can tailor the output color space to his liking with selections for 4:2:2 YCbCr (our preferred), 4:4:4 YCbCr, RGB, and Extended RGB. All of the output color spaces support below-black and above-white, except extended RGB which uses PC levels (black at digital 1 and white at digital 254). Output resolutions via HDMI include 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p (and their PAL variants). Yes, you read that right, 1080p is supported thanks to the ABT scaling.

The player does have some CUE issues. With our alternating 3-2 Fish pattern, I did see some slight flickering, though no CUE “striping” was present. I don’t care for the flicker, so I gave the player a borderline score here. The player also has the standard ICP CUE issues, so Marantz did not incorporate any chroma filtering for this player. ICP is rarely an issue with DVD playback though.

The component output was essentially the same as the HDMI output. Pixel cropping was identical at 480i and 480p. The player has an extremely flat video frequency response, and white and black levels were perfect. Using our digital oscilloscope, I found no Y/C delay. The analog outputs of this player do not offer the same scaled resolutions as the HDMI out, but they do provide an extremely solid 480p image.

Operability of the player is superb. The navigation speed is very fast with not a single hesitation to note. Using our high bit rate layer change test, the player measured in with a completely seamless layer change, a rarity nowadays. The set-up menus are easy to use, but the video set-up menus are a bit daunting and are very similar to the Pioneer Elite units in their adjustability. I recommend leaving most of the adjustments alone. It is rarely necessary to use filters with high end DVD players, and more often than not, they tend to hurt the image more than help it.

The DV9600 has no less than nine different de-interlacing modes. Ouch. The nice thing is you only need one of them. The 9600 features Auto 1-3, Video 1-3, and Film 1-3. Thankfully, both Auto 2 and Auto 3 handle all of the cadences you’ll need just fine. I suppose if you started seeing some weird artifacts with some really obscure video based DVD, you could try some of the other modes, but you should be covered with Auto 2 or 3. Auto 1 did very poorly with our bad edits test, so I don’t really recommend it.

The DV9600 does considerably well with diagonal line processing in the video domain. This is an area of that was ruled by Faroudja and their DCDi processing for quite some time, but now there are more solutions out there with comparable performance. While the 9600 doesn’t do quite as well as the DCDi solutions, it is one of the best all-in-one chip performers I’ve seen. Some of the Mediatek chips do well with this too, but they take some time to lock on.

Using the HQV Benchmark DVD, I tried some of the mixed cadences. These are the clips of the man in the diner with different speeds. The Marantz doesn’t do as well as some of the higher end processors like the new ABT based VP30 or the Silicon Optix Realta HQV chip. It does do quite well with another killer scene that former Secrets editor Stacey Spears found, the trailing credits in the Austin Powers DVD. This clip involves credits scrolling down the right side of the screen and a window box of video on the left. Most players comb quite excessively with this test, but the Marantz didn’t at all. The new ABT de-interlacer is the only other one that I’ve seen pass this without issues.

Recovery time from video to film mode was a tad sluggish and reminded me a bit of the previous Faroudja based players. I doubt this will impact the overall viewing experience though.

Unfortunately, at this time, I was unable to test out the 1080p capabilities of this player. My display only supports 720p (its native resolution), though I hope to remedy that at some point in the next year or so. I did test out the HDMI 1.1 output to my reference Anthem Statement D2 surround processor, and it worked perfectly for both movie soundtracks and DVD Audio playback. The audio section of the DV9600 is excellent, with full support of both high resolution formats and full bass management as well as time alignment for both. SACD does require conversion to PCM though for time alignment, but in our opinion it is well worth it. I also didn’t have the chance to try out the iLink outputs since my processor does not support this feature yet (fingers crossed!).

Conclusions

I must say that I REALLY liked this player. Marantz has delivered one of the best flagship designs I’ve seen in some time. From core video performance to de-interlacing to usability, the 9600 never let me down. It would make an outstanding digital transport for those looking for their next DVD player or a spectacular stand alone DVD player for those keeping it simple. Highly recommended!!!

Video Frequency Response
Marantz

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Marantz - DV-9500

MPEG Maker: Unknown
MPEG Model: Unknown
Deinterlacer Maker: Unknown
Deinterlacer Model: Unknown
   
MSRP: $2099.00
Website:

DV-9500 (Component) - Auto 2

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags

DV-9500 (HDMI) - Auto 2

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags

DV-9500 (Component) - Auto 3

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail

DV-9500 (HDMI) - Auto 3

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Film Mode High Detail

DV-9500 (Component) - Video 3

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags

DV-9500 (Component) - Auto 1

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags

DV-9500 (Component) - Video 2

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags

DV-9500 (HDMI) - Auto 1

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags

DV-9500 (Component) - Video 1

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Video Levels
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
Image Cropping
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Recovery Time
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags

Video Frequency Response
Marantz

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Marantz - DV-8400

MPEG Maker: Mitsubishi
MPEG Model: unknown
Deinterlacer Maker: Pioneer
Deinterlacer Model: unknown
   
MSRP: $1489.00
Website:

DV-8400 - Auto 1

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Layer Change
Blacker-than-Black
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Recovery Time
Motion Adaptive
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
YC Delay
Image Cropping
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Incorrect Progressive Flags
Video Levels

The DV-8400 is Marantz's newest universal player. It begins life as an OEM’d Pioneer kit, although the audio stage is entirely new. The player suffers from many of the same problems associated with Pioneer's previous units. Even the DVI-out has the chroma upsampling problem, but I was not able to test it since the port was not active when I had the player. The audio stage of this player is excellent though, but it lacks a little in the setup and bass management areas.

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Marantz - DV8300

MPEG Maker: Mitsubishi
MPEG Model: Unknown
Deinterlacer Maker: Pioneer
Deinterlacer Model: Unknown
   
MSRP: $1500.00
Website:

DV8300 - Auto1

Passed Borderline Failed Not Tested
Blacker-than-Black
YC Delay
3-2 Cadence, Film Flags
3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags
Film Mode High Detail
Recovery Time
Motion Adaptive
Layer Change
Responsiveness
Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags
Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags
Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP
Video Levels
Image Cropping
Sync Subtitle to Frames
3-2 Cadence, Video Flags
3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags
2-2 Cadence, Film Flags
Bad Edit
Video to Film Transition
Incorrect Progressive Flags

This player is a "universal" player that plays DVD-video as well as DVD-Audio and SACD. It's based on a Pioneer design similar to the DV-45A and the DV-47Ai. It passed and failed a slightly different set of tests than either of the Pioneers, but core performance was extremely similar to the 47A. (We included 47Ai in shootout 3 not the 47A.)

Deinterlacing

Like the Pioneer it is based on, at its core this is a flag-reading player, though it does have a cadence-reading solution internally that it falls back on when the progressive flag is set to "false." It doesn't seem to have much, if any bad edit detection at all, as its performance on our test was just terrible.

The Basics

Just like the Onkyo and Pioneers, this player suffers from the Chroma Upsampling Error (CUE) in all cases. The visibility of the error is fairly severe compared to some other players like the latest Toshibas.

Also like the Onkyo and Pioneers, the white level is incorrect. However while the Onkyo is too high the Marantz is too low. (Interestingly, it is at exactly the same level as the Pioneer DV-45A.)

The frequency response looks pretty decent on this player. It has just a slight roll-off.

The component timing is also within spec for both Y-Pb and Y-Pr. The player is also capable of reproducing below black picture information.

There appears to be 4 pixels cropped from the bottom of the image. We feel that any amount of pixel cropping from the top or bottom is unacceptable. There is no technical reason for it - the 480p spec allows for 480 visible lines.

The layer change takes around 1.25 seconds to complete under the worst case scenario. We rated the overall response time of the player a 2.5, which is below average.

Overall, we were unimpressed with this player for video playback. There are just too many things wrong or below average in performance. That it is THX certified reduces further the credibility of THX as a certification standard.

Video Frequency Response
Marantz