Welcome to the 3rd Annual Progressive Scan Shootout. We use the term “Annual” loosely based on our current track record.
You may have noticed that we have changed the look and feel of this latest shootout. If you have not yet read the Guide to the Progressive Scan Shootouts, then please do so before continuing. If you do not read the guide beforehand, you may not understand the new system. We have also worked hard to migrate the previous shootouts over to the new look. You can now view all shootouts at once.
We also recommend you read the latest updates to Part 5 of the DVD Benchmark and the Chroma Upsampling Error (CUE).
We have tried to include the latest players from as many companies as possible. Most of these players were tested just prior to Thanksgiving weekend back in November, 2002. Because of the new layout with the automatic scoring system, it has taken some time to get it all working. If you encounter any problems with the new shootout look and feel, please send feedback to staff@hometheaterhifi.com. This includes any serious performance issues in regards to viewing the shootout.
We have also gone through and added new result information for Shootouts 1 and 2. Some of the tests are marked as not tested, and as we get time and access to those players again, we will slowly update the database with the results.
The Test Results
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| DVD-RP82 | Auto1 | 91 | 15 | 1.75 | 3 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-XP30 | Auto2 | 90 | 15 | 1.75 | 3 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-RP82 | Auto2 | 90 | 15 | 1.75 | 3 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-2900 | Mode1 | 90 | 5 | 1 | 0.0 | 5 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-3800 | Mode1 | 88 | 5 | .5 | 5 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-9000 | Mode1 | 88 | 5 | .5 | 5 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-S2300 | Auto | 84 | 15 | 1.75 | 3 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-CP72 | Auto1 | 84 | 15 | 1.75 | 3 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-CX1 | Auto | 84 | 15 | 1.75 | 3 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-CP72 | Auto2 | 84 | 15 | 1.75 | 3 | |||||||||||||||||||
| DVD Stand> | Default | 78 | 15 | 9 | 0.1 | 4.5 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-900 | Default | 76 | 15 | 11 | 1.75 | 3.5 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-RP62 | Auto1 | 75 | 15 | 3 | 1.75 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-RP62 | Auto2 | 75 | 15 | 3 | 1.75 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Bravo D1> | Default | 70 | 5 | 1 | .5 | 2.5 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DMR-HS2 | Default | 63 | 1.75 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-3800 | Mode2 | 60 | 3 | 1 | .5 | 5 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DVD-9000 | Mode2 | 59 | 2 | 1 | 1 | .5 | 5 | |||||||||||||||||
| DVD 101 | Default | 58 | 25 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 3.5 | |||||||||||||||||
| Bravo D1> | Default | 57 | 5 | 1 | .5 | 2.5 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DV-47Ai | Auto1 | 53 | 6 | 1 | 1.25 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DMR-HS2 | Auto1 | 48 | 5 | 5 | 1.75 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DAV-C770 | Default | 48 | 2 | 2 | 4.5 | 1.5 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DVP-NS99> | Default | 46 | 30 | 2 | 5 | 2.75 | 2.5 | |||||||||||||||||
| CH-DVD 500 | Auto | 46 | 30 | 3 | 1 | 0.1 | 2 | |||||||||||||||||
| SD-3800 | Auto | 40 | 1 | 5 | 2.8 | 2 | ||||||||||||||||||
| SD-5700 | Auto | 40 | 1 | 5 | 2.8 | 2 | ||||||||||||||||||
| DV8300 | Auto1 | 38 | 5 | 5 | 12 | 1.25 | 2.5 | |||||||||||||||||
| DV-SP800 | Auto1 | 38 | 6 | 5 | 12 | 1.25 | 2.5 | |||||||||||||||||
| DV-45A | Auto | 34 | 2 | 1 | 1.5 | 3 | ||||||||||||||||||
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| Windows M> | Default | 65 | 20 | 3 | 1 | .01 | 5 | |||||||||||||||||
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| iScan Ult> | Default | 100 | 5 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| VisionPro | Auto | 88 | 2 | 5 | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Notes on individual players:
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Denon - DVD-1600
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This player is based on a Panasonic design and includes the same MPEG decoder and deinterlacer found in the highly-regarded Panasonic RP82. We found it to be very similar to the RP82 in video quality overall. Deinterlacing This player uses the Genesis FLI2200 chip, and as expected did well on
deinterlacing. There is only one "Auto" mode, unlike the similar range of Panasonic players which have two (Auto1 and Auto2). The single Auto mode on the Denon is equivalent to Auto1 on the Panasonic players, and uses the FLI2200 exclusively in cadence-reading mode. This works well for most material with the exception of NTSC 2-2 pulldown (30fps progressive) material, which is relatively uncommon. In PAL mode, the FLI2200 will generally recognize 2-2 properly (though we did not test any PAL material with this player). The Basics The 1600 had excellent core video measurements. Black and white video levels are within spec
at 99.3 IRE. The player is capable of
reproducing below black picture information. The YC delay in the player is right
at 5ns, which is a pass. (The RP82 was around 2ns.) The frequency response is slightly less flat than the Panasonic RP82, and has a very minor rolloff at 10MHz. No part of the image is cropped. It has all lines on the top and bottom as
well as all samples on the left and right sides of the image. The layer change takes around 1.75 seconds. Not the best we have seen but not
terrible. The overall response is average and we rated that a 3, which is a sharp contrast to some of Denon's other players like the 2800, which have some of the fastest layer changes and UI responsiveness we've seen. Overall, the 1600 delivers an excellent picture and has deinterlacing to match. The responsiveness is only average, but this our only significant gripe. We recommend this player highly. This player
receives the Secrets Recommended 480p award.
Video Frequency Response
Denon
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Panasonic - DVD-XP30
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| Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Video Levels Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Layer Change Responsiveness Recovery Time | 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags | |
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| Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Video Levels Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Motion Adaptive | Layer Change Responsiveness Recovery Time | Incorrect Progressive Flags | |
Deinterlacing This player uses the Genesis FLI2200 chip, and as expected did well on
deinterlacing. There are three deinterlacing modes on this player, but only two
are worth using: Auto 1 and Auto 2. Auto 1 uses the FLI2200 to analyze the
picture cadence and make decisions about film or video mode on the fly. However,
the FLI2200 doesn't have a good NTSC 2-2 pulldown mode (used for 30 fps
progressive material), so to improve the performance of 2-2 material, Panasonic
added Auto 2, which forces the FLI2200 into film mode when it sees a 2-2
progressive flag pattern in the MPEG stream. There is also a video mode but
strangely enough if you force it into video mode, DCDi™ is disabled. Given the relative dearth of 2-2 titles in the US, Auto 2 is unlikely to add
much value here. If you know that a particular title is 30 fps progressive, then
it might be worth trying Auto 2, but in general we'd leave it on Auto 1. In
Europe, however, 2-2 pulldown is very common, so Auto 2 might be a good default.
The FLI2200 chip will auto-detect 2-2 pulldown if the source is PAL,
so it might not be necessary to use Auto 2 even then.
With Auto 2 the user should be watchful for combing artifacts, and
switch to Auto 1 if they rear their head. The Basics The XP30 appears to be identical in terms of video performance to the RP82.
It is just as good in the core video department as it is in the deinterlacing
department. It looks like Panasonic has really done things well with their
latest crop of DVD players. Unlike the RP82, the XP30 does not offer DVD-A,
which may or may not matter to you. Black and white video levels are within spec, with white at 99.7 IRE. The player is capable of
reproducing below black picture information. The YC delay in the player is less
than 5ns, which is within spec. The frequency response is virtually flat and
virtually identical to the RP82. No part of the image is cropped. It has all lines on the top and bottom as
well as all samples on the left and right sides of the image. The layer change takes around 1.75 seconds. Not the best we have seen but not
terrible. The overall response is on average and we rated that a 3. If we could
choose one area for Panasonic to improve on, it would be here. We have become
spoiled by the awesome response of Meridian and Denon. While the XP30 delivers one of the most accurate images we have seen, combined with top-notch deinterlacing, it can
be improved on. To start with, we hope that Panasonic can speed up the layer change and
response on future players. That said, we certainly recommend this player
highly. It's not a perfect substitute for the RP-82, as it doesn't have DVD-A, but as a video player it seems essentially identical. This player receives the Secrets
Recommended 480p award.
Video Frequency Response
Panasonic
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Panasonic - DVD-RP82
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| Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Video Levels Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Motion Adaptive | Layer Change Responsiveness Recovery Time | Incorrect Progressive Flags | |
Deinterlacing This player uses the Genesis FLI2200 chip, and as expected did well on
deinterlacing. There are three deinterlacing modes on this player, but only two
are worth using: Auto 1 and Auto 2. Auto 1 uses the FLI2200 to analyze the
picture cadence and make decisions about film or video mode on the fly. However,
the FLI2200 doesn't have a good NTSC 2-2 pulldown mode (used for 30 fps
progressive material), so to improve the performance of 2-2 material, Panasonic
added Auto 2, which forces the FLI2200 into film mode when it sees a 2-2
progressive flag pattern in the MPEG stream. There is also a video mode but
strangely enough if you force it into video mode, DCDi™ is disabled. Given the relative dearth of 2-2 titles in the US, Auto 2 is unlikely to add
much value here. If you know that a particular title is 30 fps progressive, then
it might be worth trying Auto 2, but in general we'd leave it on Auto 1. In
Europe, however, 2-2 pulldown is very common, so Auto 2 might be a good default.
The FLI2200 chip will auto-detect 2-2 pulldown if the source is PAL,
so it might not be necessary to use Auto 2 even then.
With Auto 2 the user should be watchful for combing artifacts, and
switch to Auto 1 if they rear their head. The Basics The RP82 is just as good in the core video department as it is in the deinterlacing
department. How is it that they can get it right in a $229 player while some of
their competition can’t for 2 and 3 times the price? We recommend that all of
their competitors pick up an RP82 and see what a DVD image should look like! Black and white video levels are within spec, with white at 99.7 IRE. The player is capable of
reproducing below black picture information. The YC delay in the player is less
than 5ns, which is within spec. The frequency response is virtually flat. No part of the image is cropped. It has all lines on the top and bottom as
well as all samples on the left and right sides of the image. The layer change takes around 1.75 seconds. Not the best we have seen but not
terrible. The overall response is on average and we rated that a 3. If we could
choose one area for Panasonic to improve on, it would be here. We have become
spoiled by the awesome response of Meridian and Denon. While the RP82 delivers one of the most accurate images we have seen, combined with top-notch deinterlacing, it can
be improved on. To start with, we hope that Panasonic can speed up the layer change and
response on future players. That said, we certainly recommend this player
highly. It is clearly the best value in DVD players as of this writing. This player receives the Secrets
Recommended 480p award.
Video Frequency Response
Panasonic
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Denon - DVD-2900
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The 2900 is Denon's first foray into the "Universal" SACD/DVD-A combination
player arena. Deinterlacing The 2900 uses the Silicon Image SiI504 chip, which as usual passed
essentially every deinterlacing test with flying colors. The only real situation
where it doesn't compare quite as well to the best players we've tested is that
it doesn't have a chroma filter to alleviate the effects of the ICP (Interlaced
Chroma Problem, which we documented in our Chroma Upsampling article, and which
is different than the CUE itself). Because the SiI504 preserves all the chroma detail, you see the effects of
ICP very clearly on certain discs that are video sourced. This is not a bug, but
it does make us wish Silicon Image would take the excellent chroma filter that
was developed for the iScan Ultra and incorporate it into the next version of
the SiI50x chip. The Basics The video frequency response has a small dip around 4 MHz, but is otherwise
basically flat out to 7 MHz, and then begins a gentle rolloff. The rolloff isn't
enough to soften the image severely. Our initial unit had several lines cropped from the bottom of the image, but
Denon sent a firmware fix that addressed it. Any Denon dealer should be able to
provide the fix Black and white levels are well within spec, as is chroma delay.
Responsiveness navigating through menus and skipping chapters is lightning fast. This player uses a Mitsubishi MPEG chip from the same series that Pioneer has
used for several years in their players. Denon told us they've been working with
Mitsubishi to fix the chroma bug and they've largely succeeded. We see no
evidence of chroma bug at all on 3-2 or 2-2 normally flagged film material.
Unfortunately, the chip doesn't handle the 3-2 alternating progressive flag
issue properly, and alternates every other frame between interlaced and
progressive upsampling. This actually looks worse than just staying in
interlaced mode (though only by a little) because of the constant flicker as the
upsampling mode changes. Several scenes in Monster's Inc show this problem
clearly, and since all recent Disney releases have the problem, we imagine there
are many more movies that will not look their best in this area. Denon has
looked into this issue and apparently they don't believe a firmware fix is
possible for it. Still, we are glad that Denon took the time to fix the problem
for a wide range of movies. Toy Story looks great on this player, as does Moulin
Rouge and many other films that show the chroma bug clearly on other players. Overall we think this player has excellent progressive video quality marred
by one significant flaw - the 3-2 alternating flag chroma upsampling issue.
Whether that flaw is a deal-breaker is really a personal choice. For people
looking for a combo SACD/DVD-A player with top-notch progressive video, this is
competitive with the Yamaha DVD-S2300 player we looked at a few months ago. It
exceeds it in some areas, like chroma delay, and doesn't do as well in a couple
of areas mentioned above. With the 2900, Denon hasn't quite made a unit that
passes every one of our tests, but they've come pretty close.
The layer change is the fastest we've ever seen. On our test disc, which is
intentionally designed to be the worst layer change a player will ever need to
deal with, the break was invisible. We watched it several times to be sure, and
we could not see any kind of stutter or hiccup at all.
Video Frequency Response
Denon
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Denon - DVD-3800
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| Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Video Levels Blacker-than-Black Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Recovery Time Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Image Cropping | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP YC Delay | |
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| Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Video Levels Blacker-than-Black Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Recovery Time Motion Adaptive | Image Cropping | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP YC Delay 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Incorrect Progressive Flags | |
Deinterlacing This player uses the SiI504, but adds an extra twist - it has a flag-reading
mode as well. This could potentially be useful in the rare situations where the
SiI504 isn't going into film mode, but you know the disc has good flags. The
Denon's flag-reading mode is a very simple one, which doesn't handle the common
"alternating progressive flag" problem. The names of the modes could be better - "Mode 1" is the cadence-reading
mode, and "Mode 2" is the flag-reading mode. In the US, most of the time Mode 1
is going to do the best job. If you have the player in Mode 1 and a film looks
soft, it might be worth trying Mode 2. If you have the player in Mode 2 and
start seeing lots of combing, switch it back to Mode 1. The Basics In addition to the deinterlacing mode switch, there is another video mode
option that lets you select between "auto," "film," and "video." This makes it
sound like a deinterlacing mode switch, but it's not. From what we can tell it
changes two things. chroma upsampling and pause type. Pause type is pretty simple: “Auto” uses the progressive_frame flag to
determine whether to do frame or field pauses. (A frame pause
shows the whole frame, while a field pause takes a single video field and scales
it up, which looks pixellated and soft.) In "film" mode, all pauses are
frame pauses, which can cause the image to look combed if the frame you're
pausing on has movement between fields. "Video" mode causes all pauses to be
single fields. We can't imagine why anyone would want video mode. The other thing that changes with the video mode switch is chroma upsampling.
On the few other players that allow selectable upsampling, “Auto” was clearly
the way to go. However, on the Denon “Auto” mode causes it to (wrongly) use
interlaced upsampling on "alternating progressive flag" material like Monsters
Inc. Amazingly enough, "film" mode is not forced progressive upsampling. It's
the same as “Auto” mode, except that it fixes the "alternating progressive flag"
problem. On video material, it continues to use interlaced upsampling, even in
"Film" mode. Frankly, this doesn't make sense to us. Most people are going to
leave the setting on “Auto”, which means they're going to be seeing the Chroma
Upsampling Error on a wide variety of popular films. And if they switch to
"film," which we certainly recommend, they'll get combed frames when they pause
on certain discs. We don't think they should have offered the Auto chroma upsampling mode. As far as we can
tell, "film" is the correct chroma mode for all situations, and passed all of
our chroma upsampling tests. If there is material that it's incorrect on, we
don't know what it is. The initial unit we received had the chroma error. However, we applied a
firmware fix Denon sent us, and it did fix the problem. Current units at retail
supposedly already have this fix or a new, fixed MPEG decoder that has an
equivalent fix in hardware. Even though it is correct, it was not the best
upsampling we have seen. We would describe it as a little blocky, but it looks
far better than the best wrong upsampling (which we would say is the Toshiba). White is virtually perfect at 99.26 IRE and black is the same at 0 IRE. Both
Y-Pb and Y-Pr have a pretty large delay. We estimate it is close to 1 pixel,
which is 37ns at 480p. (74ns at 480i) They can probably correct this by making a
register change inside of the Analog Devices Video Encoder. The frequency
response on this player is also hot. There is no roll-off but rather a steady
climb up. At 10 MHz the player is up 1 dB. There are 0 lines cropped from the top, 2 from the bottom, 5 from the left,
and 1 from the right. The disparity between left and right pixel cropping is not
great, in our opinion, because it causes the image not to be centered. It's a
tiny thing, but one that we think should be easy to get right. The layer change is very fast, clocking in at around 0.25 seconds. We rate the
overall performance a 5. This player just smokes when navigating a disc. In general, this is a good performer. It has excellent video quality,
excellent deinterlacing, and performs well. It's heavy, for those who like that
kind of thing, and it's not just lead weights. The Y/C delay and the quirky
video mode switch are the only disappointments.
Video Frequency Response
Denon
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Denon - DVD-9000
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| Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Video Levels Blacker-than-Black 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Recovery Time Motion Adaptive | Image Cropping | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP YC Delay Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Incorrect Progressive Flags | |
Note: The unit we received was one of the first ones with the new MPEG
decoder chip. Deinterlacing The deinterlacing performance and issues were essentially equivalent to the
DVD-3800, also covered in this shootout. Please refer to the deinterlacing
section of that review, as the performance and modes were identical. The Basics The same issues we found with the "video mode" switch in the DVD-3800 menus
were also present on the DVD-9000. Please read the "Basics" section of that
review for more on those quirks. White is virtually perfect at 100.52 IRE and black is the same at 0 IRE. Both
Y-Pb and Y-Pr have a pretty large delay. We estimate it is close to 1 pixel,
which is 37ns at 480p. (74ns at 480i) They can probably correct this by making a
register change inside of the Analog Devices Video Encoder. The frequency
response looks good.. The player is down .23 dB at 10 MHz. There are 0 lines cropped from the top, 2 from the bottom, 5 from the left,
and 1 from the right. The layer change is very fast clocking in at around .25 seconds. We rate the
overall performance a 5. This player just smokes when navigating a disc. This player is using the high end 14-bit / 108 MHz video encoder from Analog
Devices. Even so, the output was not as clean as the Krell DVD Standard. This
goes to show that as good as the DAC is, the analog anti-imaging filters that
come later are just as important. In general, this is a good performer. It has excellent video quality,
excellent deinterlacing, and performs well. It's heavy, for those who like that
kind of thing, and it's not just lead weights. The Y/C delay and the quirky
video mode switch are the only disappointments.
Video Frequency Response
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Finally a universal player (capable of playing both SACD and DVD-A) that
actually produces good video. This is the only universal player on the market as
of this writing (January 2003) that does not have the Chroma Upsampling Error. The video section of this player is based on the same core design as the
Panasonic RP-82, which is a good thing. There are some changes, however. The
analog video section is different, which means that it measures somewhat
differently. The DVD drive had to be changed to allow for reading SACDs, which
have a slightly different physical format than other DVD-style media. Also, the
whole audio output section is a different design, thought we don't cover audio
output in the shootout. Deinterlacing This player is based on the RP-82, and thus shares its excellent
deinterlacing as well as a few quirks relating to its two main deinterlacing
modes. Rather than repeat the same information, we recommend you read our
deinterlacing writeup for the RP-82, in this same shootout report. The Basics As we mentioned, this player does not have the chroma error. It is based on
the same great MPEG decoder that the Panasonic RP82, RP91, and H2000 use. White measures at the bottom end of our passing range at 98.14 IRE. Black is
exactly where it belongs. The DVD player is also capable of reproducing below
black picture information. The frequency response is rather rolled off. At 10 MHz the video is down 2.11
dB. The image from this player is just a little softer than the rest, though
this is not necessarily wrong. Y-Pb is greater than 5ns while Y-Pr is less than
5ns. It is worth noting that the Pb and Pr channels are delayed in the opposite
directions, which increases the visibility of the chroma delay. There are 0
lines cropped from the top and bottom and 0 samples cropped from the left and
right, which is excellent. This player has the cross-color suppressor in the FLI2200 on, so you may see
some flicker on saturated colors like those found in Toy Story. The layer change on this player takes approximately 1.75 seconds. Not the
best but in the range we consider a pass. Overall we rated this player a 3 in
performance. In general this is a very good player from a video standpoint, though the
chroma delay is disappointing. The flaws, however, are relatively minor, and for
the most part this is equivalent in video quality to the Panasonic RP-82, which
is one of the best players we've seen. Certainly this player is head and
shoulders better than any of the other universal players we've looked at.
Video Frequency Response
Yamaha
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This player has been widely assumed to be the equivalent of the well-regarded RP82, only in a 5-disc changer form factor. We found this to be largely true, though with a few minor disappointments. Deinterlacing This player uses the Genesis FLI2200 chip, and as expected did well on
deinterlacing. There are three deinterlacing modes on this player, but only two
are worth using: Auto 1 and Auto 2. Auto 1 uses the FLI2200 to analyze the
picture cadence and make decisions about film or video mode on the fly. However,
the FLI2200 doesn't have a good NTSC 2-2 pulldown mode (used for 30 fps
progressive material), so to improve the performance of 2-2 material, Panasonic
added Auto 2, which forces the FLI2200 into film mode when it sees a 2-2
progressive flag pattern in the MPEG stream. There is also a video mode but
strangely enough if you force it into video mode, DCDi™ is disabled. Given the relative dearth of 2-2 titles in the US, Auto 2 is unlikely to add
much value here. If you know that a particular title is 30 fps progressive, then
it might be worth trying Auto 2, but in general we'd leave it on Auto 1. In
Europe, however, 2-2 pulldown is very common, so Auto 2 might be a good default.
The FLI2200 chip will auto-detect 2-2 pulldown if the source is PAL,
so it might not be necessary to use Auto 2 even then.
With Auto 2 the user should be watchful for combing artifacts, and
switch to Auto 1 if they rear their head. The Basics The performance of the CP72 on the basic video measurements was nearly identical to the RP82, with two exceptions: there was slightly more chroma delay and the frequency response was different. The frequency response isn't as flat as the RP82 (or the RP62), though not so rolled off as to make the image look unpleasantly soft.
There is a bit of peaking in the middle frequencies, which could make this
player appear sharper or more detailed. At 6 MHz, the RP82 was up 0.17 dB while
the CP72 is up 0.44 dB. The chroma delay was slightly out of spec at around 10ns with both channels delayed the same amount in the same direction.
We measured two RP82s and the XP30 at 2-3ns. Black and white video levels are within spec at 99.3 IRE. The player is capable of
reproducing below black picture information. No part of the image is cropped. It has all lines on the top and bottom as
well as all samples on the left and right sides of the image. The layer change takes around 1.75 seconds. Not the best we have seen but not
terrible. The overall response is on average and we rated that a 3. If we could
choose one area for Panasonic to improve on, it would be here. We have become
spoiled by the awesome response of Meridian and Denon. Overall, this is a very good player and very similar to the RP82. While the Y/C delay was just outside the EIA spec, we still think the player is an excellent value and worth considering.
Video Frequency Response
Panasonic
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Yamaha - DVD-CX1
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This player is based on a Panasonic design, and seems closest to the
Panasonic RP82, though it doesn't have completely the same performance. Deinterlacing Overall deinterlacing performance was excellent, as the player uses the
Faroudja-designed FLI2200. This has the same deinterlacing modes as the RP-82, and rather than repeat
the lengthy comments on when to use the different modes, we recommend you read
the deinterlacing notes in our RP-82 writeup in this shootout report. The Basics This player does not have the Chroma Upsampling Error (CUE). It is based on
the same great MPEG decoder that the Panasonic RP82, RP91, and H2000 use. White measures virtually perfect at 99.68 IRE. Black is exactly where it
belongs. The DVD player is also capable of reproducing below black picture
information. The frequency response is very good. At 10 MHz the video is down .76 dB. Y-Pb
is greater than 5ns while Y-Pr is less than 5ns. It is worth noting that the Pb
and Pr channels are delayed in the opposite directions, which increases the
visibility of chroma delay. There are 0 lines cropped from the top and bottom
and 0 samples cropped from the left and right. This player has the cross-color suppressor in the FLI2200 on, so you may see
some flicker on saturated colors like those found in Toy Story. The layer change on this player takes approximately 1.75 seconds. Not the
best but in the range we consider a pass. Overall we rated this player a 3 in
performance. In general this is a very good player, though without really anything
specific to recommend it over the Panasonic player that it is based on, and the
chroma delay is disappointing. The flaws, however, are relatively minor, and for
the most part this is equivalent to the Panasonic, which is one of the best
players we've seen.
Video Frequency Response
Yamaha
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Krell - DVD Standard
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| Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Video Levels Blacker-than-Black 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Recovery Time | Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags | |
Deinterlacing This player uses the FLI2200, and had performance similar to other players
with that chip. Recovery time from video to film mode was too high for us to
give full marks, and NTSC 2-2 pulldown wasn't handled, which isn't a huge issue
for the USA. This player does offer the ability to enable NTSC 2-2 pulldown, but
when enabled we saw field inversion on our test disc. They do not let you invert
the fields manually so we don’t know if that would have solved our problem.
Otherwise, it passed with flying colors. The Basics Most of the time, this player does not have the Chroma Upsampling Error.
Krell is using the same LSI MPEG decoder that is found in the Proceed PMDT and
several Sony DVD players like the 7700 and 9000. Unlike the Sony players, the
Krell does not have the chroma bug with "standard" 3-2 encoded DVDs. The problem
the Krell has is on DVDs encoded with alternating progressive flags, see image
below. You will have to look close to see it, sorry it is so small. This is a
simulation of what it looks like. It is much larger when viewed in person. You
will probably not see it on the 480p out because of the filtering in the
FLI2200, but if you feed the 480i into an external processor as we did, it will
become obvious. If the external processor is also using the FLI2200, then it
will probably masked. In this case, they switch upsampling methods every frame,
which results in a noticeable and annoying flicker. The FLI2200 will mask this
on the 480p output, but if you plug it into an external processor, it's
obnoxious. This is something that could be corrected, but would require some
work.
When casually looking at the sharpness pattern on Avia, this DVD player
provided the least amount of ringing. The Avia pattern is a severe test in this
area. This suggests that the analog anti-imaging filters used after the DACs are
exemplary. The DVD Standard is using a 54 MHz DAC and it outperformed the Denon
DVD-9000, Pioneer 47Ai, and Sony DVP-NS999ES, which are all using 108 MHz DACs.
This goes to show just how important the analog video section is. The higher
sampling DACs are supposed to make analog filtering easier, but clearly a good
job can be done with a lower-frequency DAC. (It is a form of upsampling, just
like that used for audio DACs.) The white level on the Krell was just about perfect and well within spec. The
DVD Standard also had the flattest frequency response of all players tested in
shootout 3. The DVD Standard is also capable of reproducing below black picture
information. However, not all is perfect on this player, at least not yet. While Y-Pr was
below 5ns, Y-Pb was >30ns. The Kenwood from Shootout 2 suffered from the same
problem and we believe that, like the Kenwood, this can be solved with a
firmware update. Krell has provided at least one firmware update since we first received the
player, which exposed the chroma enhancement controls in the FLI2220. Since the
chroma enhancement features are controversial (we prefer them set low or off),
this update was in our opinion a good thing. There is a menu option called animation mode. We believe this is supposed to
toggle the cross-color suppression (CCS) feature off and on, but currently it
does not do anything. The CCS is set to on at the moment. With it in this
position you will see flickering on some saturated reds like those found in Toy
Story. Pixel cropping on this player is severe. 13 samples are cropped from the left
side of the image, which we think is well beyond any standard of reasonableness.
Aside from the fact that picture information is being lost unnecessarily, the
fact that it's all from one side shifts the image noticeably. Next to the WMC PC, this had the fastest layer change of any DVD player we
have seen. It even nudged out the Denon and Meridian in terms of speed. We
estimate it takes around .1 seconds under the worst case scenario. We gave the DVD Standard a 4.5 in response time. It would have received a 5,
but we felt the next-chapter skip was not as fast as the Denon or Meridian. This is overall a generally good player, verging on excellent. The pixel
cropping is disappointing, and we hope that a future update will provide a
working animation mode, a fix for the chroma upsampling on alternating flag
material, and a fix for the Y-Pb delay problem. In a player at this price point,
we think it's only reasonable to expect these details to be done right.
Video Frequency Response
Krell
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Denon - DVD-900
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| Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Image Cropping 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Recovery Time | Video Levels Sync Subtitle to Frames 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags | |
Deinterlacing This player uses the Faroudja-designed FLI2200 chip for deinterlacing, and
thus has excellent overall performance in this area. Like almost all players
using the FLI2200 it recovers from video mode to film mode too slowly to get
full points, and it doesn't go into film mode on NTSC 2-2 pulldown. This feature
is available in the FLI2200 but it is often always disabled because of it not
being reliable. In the rare case we have seen it enabled, it ends up inverting
the fields. You can also control this, but shouldn’t it be automatic? The Basics We are not sure which MPEG encoder this player is using. Denon tells us it is
not the ESS, but we also know it is not using an MEI like the Denon 1600. This
player does suffer from the chroma error, but it is masked to a degree if you
are using the 480p outputs, by the FLI2200. Black is fine at 0 IRE. White is low at 96.04 IRE. The frequency response on
this player rolls off sharply. It is down 1 dB at 4 MHz. It is down 2 dB at 7.16
MHz. And finally it is down 3.24 dB at 10 MHz. This resulted in a very soft
image. We wonder if the anti-imaging filters were optimized for 480i instead of
480p, which would explain the steep roll-off. On the plus side, the YC delay was virtually perfect coming in at under 2ns.
There are 0 lines cropped from the top and bottom and 0 samples cropped from the
left and right. The layer change takes around 1.75 seconds to complete. The player also falls
into the average range and we rate its overall performance as 3.5. This is a generally good player, with a lot to recommend it. The fairly steep frequency
roll-off and the Chroma Upsampling Error are the only
significant concerns.
Video Frequency Response
Denon
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Panasonic - DVD-RP62
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| Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Blacker-than-Black 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Layer Change Responsiveness Recovery Time | Video Levels YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags | |
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| Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Blacker-than-Black 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Motion Adaptive | Layer Change Responsiveness Recovery Time | Video Levels YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames Incorrect Progressive Flags | |
Deinterlacing This player uses the Genesis FLI2200 chip, and as expected did well on
deinterlacing. There are three deinterlacing modes on this player, but only two
are worth using: Auto 1 and Auto 2. Auto 1 uses the FLI2200 to analyze the
picture cadence and make decisions about film or video mode on the fly. However,
the FLI2200 doesn't have a good NTSC 2-2 pulldown mode (used for 30 fps
progressive material), so to improve the performance of 2-2 material, Panasonic
added Auto 2, which forces the FLI2200 into film mode when it sees a 2-2
progressive flag pattern in the MPEG stream. There is also a video mode but
strangely enough if you force into video mode, DCDi™ is disabled. Given the relative dearth of 2-2 titles in the US, Auto 2 is unlikely to add
much value here. If you know that a particular title is 30 fps progressive, then
it might be worth trying Auto 2, but in general we'd leave it on Auto 1. In
Europe, however, 2-2 pulldown is very common, so Auto 2 might be a good default.
The FLI2200 chip will auto-detect 2-2 pulldown if the source is PAL,
so it might not be necessary to use Auto 2 even then.
With Auto 2 the user should be watchful for combing artifacts, and
switch to Auto 1 if they rear their head. The Basics White is actually a little low and below spec. The player is capable of
reproducing below black picture information. The YC delay is longer than 5ns,
which is outside of spec. The frequency response looks good. While no lines are cropped on the top or bottom, there are 5 samples cropped
from the left and 6 cropped from the right. The layer change takes around 1.75 seconds. Not the best we have seen but not
terrible. The overall response is on average and we rated that a 3. If we could
choose one area for Panasonic to improve on, it would be here. We have become
spoiled by the awesome response of Meridian and Denon. All in all, not a bad player, but it is not quite up to the level set by the
RP82 (or even its predecessor the RP56). However, it's a cheaper player, and readily available in more stores than
the RP82. At its price point, it's a perfectly fine player.
Video Frequency Response
Panasonic
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V. Inc - Bravo D1 - DVI
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| Layer Change Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Video Levels Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Video to Film Transition Recovery Time | Responsiveness 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Bad Edit Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | ||
Important note: The pass/fail scores for this player only apply to the
DVI output. As you'll see from the testing notes, the analog output has serious
issues, and thus we can only recommend this player if it's connected to the
display via DVI. Deinterlacing This player uses the new Sigma Designs all-in-one chip, which has basic
flag-only film detection, combined with a simple vertical filter for video mode
deinterlacing. As with all chips of this type, it works well on film-based
content when the flags are standard, but when the flags are non-standard or the
content is not from a film or other progressive source, the image is much softer
than it needs to be. In the worst cases, when the progressive flag is set to
"true" improperly, the player will comb constantly. Its resistance to bad edits
was poor, with 5 total combs in the Big Lebowski montage. On the plus side, it handles the common "alternating progressive flag"
encoding problem well, correctly treating it as progressive content. The Basics Black level on the analog output is incorrect at 7.6 IRE instead of the
standard 0 IRE. There is no switch we could find to adjust it to 0 IRE black.
White level is low, at 97.3 IRE, which was too low to pass. Both Y-Pb and Y-Pr
have delay greater than the EIA standard of 5ns, again only on the analog
output. The player does pass blacker-than-black in progressive mode, though we
should note that because the player only does 7.5 IRE black, we were unable to
check blacker-than-black at 0 IRE. The video frequency response on the analog output of this player is
astonishingly rolled off, actually down a whopping 13 dB at 10 MHz. Considering
that DVD goes all the way to 13.5 MHz, that's pretty bad. The rolloff was
consistent even in the higher resolutions. Through the DVI connection, of
course, there is no rolloff. There are 0 video lines cropped from the top and bottom, and 0 video samples
on the left and right, which is excellent. The layer change is fast, at around 0.5 seconds, and responsiveness was 2.5,
which is about average. The scaling and DVI features of this player are what people are buying it
for, and those features work well, as long as you use them together. The analog
outputs have too many problems for us to recommend the player for use via an
analog connection, but through a DVI connection the clarity is just stellar,
with no chroma delay and no rolloff. The scaling engine in the player is
excellent, producing clean output with no obvious jaggies or moire even on
difficult material like the Avia resolution patterns. The player is not without its quirks, however. In our limited time working
with it, we found that while it has a zoom that is useful for zooming in on
non-anamorphic letterboxed discs, the zoom snaps back to normal when you hit the
chapter next button, and the subtitles turn off while it's zoomed in. These are
clearly firmware quirks, and perhaps can be corrected, but they are nevertheless
annoying. Another minor issue is that the player always window-boxes 4:3 discs for you,
even if your display has aspect ratio controls of its own. This is non-optimal
for people with digital displays, as they often only sample 720 times across a
scan line when taking in 480p content. With the window-box bars on, there are
more than 720 sample intervals across the screen, and thus picture information
gets lost. You can clearly see this on our Sony VW10HT test projector. We put
the player in 16x9 mode, then viewed a 4x3-encoded resolution chart. Three
fourths of the horizontal resolution was lost because the projector wasn't
sampling more than what it thought it "needed" to do to capture the full 480p
signal. If we put the player in 4x3 mode so it wouldn't add the window-box bars,
then window-boxed using the display's aspect controls, the full resolution was
visible. The player could really use a mode where it doesn't try to do any
aspect control of its own, for people who have a display that can do a better
job of aspect control than the player can. This is not an issue when using the
DVI output. Finally, we noted that when the player is in 16x9 mode, whenever subpictures
(like menus and subtitles) are displayed on screen for 4x3 content they look
very odd, like they've been scaled using a simplistic algorithm. The effect is
jarring. The menus on Avia are a good example of this phenomenon because Avia
contains both 4x3 and 16x9 menus. Put the player in 4x3 mode, and the effect
disappears. We have seen similar behavior on other DVD players. In the end, while we are impressed with the clarity that DVI brings, we're
not ready to lose the excellent deinterlacing of the best chipsets in order to
get it, and we weren't happy with the interface quirks mentioned above. For
those who just want an inexpensive way to feed a digital display with a DVI
connection and aren't as picky about deinterlacing and quirky UI, the Bravo D1
may well fit the bill.
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| Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Video Levels Blacker-than-Black Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags Film Mode High Detail Video to Film Transition Recovery Time Incorrect Progressive Flags | Layer Change Responsiveness Image Cropping | Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP YC Delay 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Bad Edit Motion Adaptive | |
This is a DVD recorder, but we only looked at the performance of the video
section while playing back pre-recorded DVDs. Deinterlacing This is the first player we've looked at that uses Panasonic's new all-in-one
MPEG decoder/deinterlacer combo chip, and it's a big step down in many areas
from their previous line of players, which used the Faroudja-designed Genesis
Fli2200 chip. This chip appears to use a hybrid flag/cadence reading algorithm
and not a very good one. It fails the chapter stops test and fails the bad-edit
test with 5 combs, which is not good at all. Like all the other all-in-one chips
thus far, the video deinterlacing is not motion-adaptive. The Basics The biggest surprise in this player is that the new MPEG decoder has the
common chroma upsampling error (CUE) on 3-2 material (but amazingly not on 2-2
material). This is just astounding, because Panasonic has always passed this
test with flying colors, starting with their very first players. Just when many
other decoder manufacturers are starting to ship chips without this flaw,
Panasonic takes a massive step backwards. To say that we're disappointed is an
understatement. Chroma delay is more than 5 ns, which is outside the EIA standard for
consumer-grade video. There is significant pixel cropping on three sides of the
image. On the plus side, the black and white levels are within spec, and the player
passes below-black content on the progressive output. The video frequency
response is very flat with a small rolloff at the higher frequencies, which is
perfectly fine. If this player is representative of the rest of Panasonic's line this model
year (and we think it is, based on some informal testing of other players in the
line) then Panasonic has moved in the wrong direction. Given the shaky
deinterlacing and the chroma bug, we can't really recommend this as a
progressive video player.
Video Frequency Response
Panasonic
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Harman Kardon - DVD 101
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| Layer Change Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Recovery Time | Responsiveness Image Cropping | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Video Levels 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | |
Reviewing this player produces a real sense of deja-vu, as it's yet another
player based on the very popular National Semiconductor Pantera II deinterlacing
chipset. The Pantera is used in many other players including most of the
progressive-scan JVCs and Malatas. Deinterlacing Things haven't changed much since last we looked at a Pantera-based player.
On the plus side, this player handles alternating-progressive-flag material like
Monsters Inc. properly, which is good. The chipset is still completely
flag-based, and thus has no way of identifying film material other than the
flags on the disc. The video deinterlacing is still not motion-adaptive in any
way. It looked to us like the video deinterlacing was defaulting to simple
single-field interpolation (or "bob"). The chipset has excellent scaling and
upsampling, so on some material, the bob algorithm wasn't as obvious. But in
general, we'd have to call the deinterlacing bare-bones. The Basics Like all other Pantera-based players we've evaluated, this player has no
chroma bug (CUE) at all. The ICP is not really a problem through the progressive
output because the very soft video deinterlacing cuts both luma and chroma
resolution in half, effectively hiding the chroma issues as a side effect. The white level was just a tiny bit high at 103 IRE, just outside our "pass"
criterion. The inter-channel delay was nearly perfect at <2 ns delay on all
channels, which meets EIA professional standards. There were 3 samples cropped
on both the left and right side of the image, but none on the top or bottom. The
player does pass blacker than black on the progressive output. Video frequency response was impressively flat with a mild rolloff near the
top, which is perfectly fine. The layer change was middle of the pack at 1
second on our test disc, and the responsiveness was only so-so.
There are also no user adjustments to allow you to tweak the deinterlacing
modes, as there are on the JVC, Malata, and other Pantera-based players.
Normally we think the user shouldn't have to adjust the settings from disc to
disc to get a good picture, but given the quirks of this player and the
potential for very ugly results on certain discs, we'd have preferred at least
the option of forcing video mode. In general, though, most people would be
better off switching the player to interlaced mode if a disc is combing too
often.
Overall this is a decent player, and actually one of the better ones we've
looked at that uses this chipset. The one major downside is the deinterlacing,
which doesn't work well for anime, obscure titles, video-sourced titles, and
essentially anything other than big-name Hollywood titles (and not well on some
of those).
Video Frequency Response
Harman Kardon
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Deinterlacing This player uses the new Sigma Designs all-in-one chip, which has basic
flag-only film detection, combined with a simple vertical filter for video mode
deinterlacing. As with all chips of this type, it works well on film-based
content when the flags are standard, but when the flags are non-standard or the
content is not from a film or other progressive source, the image is much softer
than it needs to be. In the worst cases, when the progressive flag is set to
"true" improperly, the player will comb constantly. Its resistance to bad edits
was poor, with 5 total combs in the Big Lebowski montage. On the plus side, it handles the common "alternating progressive flag"
encoding problem well, correctly treating it as progressive content. The Basics Black level on the analog output is incorrect at 7.6 IRE instead of the
standard 0 IRE. There is no switch we could find to adjust it to 0 IRE black.
White level is low, at 97.3 IRE, which was too low to pass. Both Y-Pb and Y-Pr
have delay greater than the EIA standard of 5ns, again only on the analog
output. The player does pass blacker-than-black in progressive mode, though we
should note that because the player only does 7.5 IRE black, we were unable to
check blacker-than-black at 0 IRE. However, like Toshiba players, we have passed
this player on the blacker-than-black test. The video frequency response on the analog output of this player is
astonishingly rolled off, actually down a whopping 13 dB at 10 MHz. Considering
that DVD goes all the way to 13.5 MHz, that's pretty bad. The rolloff was
consistent even in the higher resolutions. Through the DVI connection, of
course, there is no rolloff. There are 0 video lines cropped from the top and bottom, and 0 video samples
on the left and right, which is excellent. The layer change is fast, at around 0.5 seconds, and responsiveness was 2.5,
which is about average. The scaling and DVI features of this player are what people are buying it
for, and those features work well, as long as you use them together. The analog
outputs have too many problems for us to recommend the player for use via an
analog connection, but through a DVI connection the clarity is just stellar,
with no chroma delay and no rolloff. The scaling engine in the player is
excellent, producing clean output with no obvious jaggies or moire even on
difficult material like the Avia resolution patterns. The player is not without its quirks, however. In our limited time working
with it, we found that while it has a zoom that is useful for zooming in on
non-anamorphic letterboxed discs, the zoom snaps back to normal when you hit the
chapter next button, and the subtitles turn off while it's zoomed in. These are
clearly firmware quirks, and perhaps can be corrected, but they are nevertheless
annoying. Another minor issue is that the player always window-boxes 4:3 discs for you,
even if your display has aspect ratio controls of its own. This is non-optimal
for people with digital displays, as they often only sample 720 times across a
scan line when taking in 480p content. With the window-box bars on, there are
more than 720 sample intervals across the screen, and thus picture information
gets lost. You can clearly see this on our Sony VW10HT test projector. We put
the player in 16x9 mode, then viewed a 4x3-encoded resolution chart. Three
fourths of the horizontal resolution was lost because the projector wasn't
sampling more than what it thought it "needed" to do to capture the full 480p
signal. If we put the player in 4x3 mode so it wouldn't add the window-box bars,
then window-boxed using the display's aspect controls, the full resolution was
visible. The player could really use a mode where it doesn't try to do any
aspect control of its own, for people who have a display that can do a better
job of aspect control than the player can. This is not an issue when using the
DVI output. Finally, we noted that when the player is in 16x9 mode, whenever subpictures
(like menus and subtitles) are displayed on screen for 4x3 content they look
very odd, like they've been scaled using a simplistic algorithm. The effect is
jarring. The menus on Avia are a good example of this phenomenon because Avia
contains both 4x3 and 16x9 menus. Put the player in 4x3 mode, and the effect
disappears. We have seen similar behavior on other DVD players. In the end, while we are impressed with the clarity that DVI brings, we're
not ready to lose the excellent deinterlacing of the best chipsets in order to
get it, and we weren't happy with the interface quirks mentioned above. For
those who just want an inexpensive way to feed a digital display with a DVI
connection and aren't as picky about deinterlacing and quirky UI, the Bravo D1
may well fit the bill.
Video Frequency Response
V. Inc
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| Video Levels Blacker-than-Black Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Film Mode High Detail Video to Film Transition Recovery Time Motion Adaptive | Layer Change Responsiveness | Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP YC Delay Image Cropping 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Bad Edit Incorrect Progressive Flags | |
This is Pioneer's flagship universal (SACD & DVD-A) player. Deinterlacing Pioneer has appeared to make some improvements with their deinterlacing
compared to the previous 47A. It no longer combs on subtitles and it is able to
deal with encoding errors on subtitles. They also appear to have fixed the strange combing problem on the Galaxy
Quest "bonus features" menu. At least we were not able to reproduce it on any of
the universal players based on the Pioneer electronics. But in general, this suffers from the same basic problems that most flag
readers have, and some that most don't have. It has a cadence analysis
algorithm, so it does OK on film material that is flagged as video, but it
failed our bad edit test with the worst score in the shootout (equaled only by
the other players based on the Pioneer design). The Basics The bad news is that the MPEG decoder still suffers from the Chroma
Upsampling Error. It appears to be just as bad as previous Pioneer players.
Pioneer players are on the severe end of the Chroma Upsampling Error scale. The white level on this player appeared to be pretty dead on and the over all
frequency response also appeared to be pretty good. The 47Ai is also capable of
passing below black picture information. The frequency response on this player is nice and flat with a small roll-off
at 10 MHz. The component timing is outside of spec. While you can fix level differences
among players with the picture controls, there is virtually nothing you can
really do with the timings of the component signal. While there is a YC delay
adjustment in the menus, it is too coarse to correct the problem. One option is
to get different lengths of cable for each video signal (Y, Pb, and Pr) but that
has its own set of problems. The layer change takes around 1.25 seconds to complete under the worst case
scenario. We rated the overall response time of the player a 3, which is a hair
more responsive that the previous DV-47A. There are 3 lines cropped from the bottom of the image. This is unacceptable
in our opinion. There is no technical reason to crop the top or bottom of the
image. The most positive thing we can say about this player is that it's the best
Pioneer player we've looked at. Sadly, that really isn't enough. This player
should be better, given its price and its THX certification. Given that you can
now get a universal SACD/DVD-A player from Yamaha with excellent video, we can't
recommend this player at all.
Video Frequency Response
Pioneer Elite
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This is one of the new Home Theater in a Box product’s from Sony. The HTIB is
the hottest selling consumer electronic product today. They are flying off the
shelves and we felt we should include at least one. Deinterlacing This player uses the deinterlacing built into the Ziva5 to create the
progressive image and not any Sony algorithms. It appears to make decisions by
analyzing the overall pattern of the flags and not by blindly following each
flag literally. Its biggest blind spot is that it appears to treat all 480p/30 (aka
2-2 pulldown) sources as video. It also doesn't have motion-adaptive video
deinterlacing, which isn't great. The Basics Given that all previous Sony players other than the 7000 have had the Chroma
Upsampling Error, we were pleasantly surprised when we viewed chapter 4 of Toy
Story. Gone was the Chroma Upsampling Error we are so used to seeing from Sony
DVD players. The most surprising part is that it is missing from this $599
package and yet it still exists in their new flagship standalone player. This fact alone made us peel the top back on the chassis and much to our
surprise; this DVD player is now using the LSI Ziva5. Early Sony products like
the 7700 and 9000 used an older LSI MPEG decoder, which was before LSI acquired
C-Cube. This MPEG decoder was not free of problems however. The Toy Story menu (which
is 2-2 or 30fps progressive) still showed the chroma error. And there is another
problem: the chroma is shifted down vertically from the luma when the player
uses the interlaced chroma upsampling algorithm. It is shifted at least one
pixel, perhaps more, which is visible and not good. We have seen this previously
in the Samsung 721, which was the first DVD player to use the new Ziva5. We told
C-Cube about it, but so far we haven't seen a fix. The shifted chroma on interlaced content is annoying, but it's really obvious
when the flags alternate between interlaced and progressive. At the end of our
bad edit test on Big Lebowski, the chroma appears to bounce up and down on
screen. We have provided a sample image below so you can see the effect. We've
since seen it on a variety of material, though this particular image is among
the best for showing it. If you look at the star on the right, you will see it
pulsate up and down.
This was the slowest player we used in the shootout -- painfully slow at
times. The layer change on this player took around 4 seconds. We rated the
overall performance as a 1.5. If responsiveness is important to you, look
elsewhere. We did not take any video measurements on this player due to limited time
with this unit. Overall, we're happy that Sony has finally released a player without the Chroma
Upsampling Error, or at least without the most common form. And given the
implied price of this player as part of a whole theater package, we think it's
an OK value. If you want the best performance, though, we recommend looking
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| YC Delay Sync Subtitle to Frames 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags Video to Film Transition Recovery Time Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Video Levels Blacker-than-Black Image Cropping 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit | ||
We recall the Sony 7000 fondly. At the time, the 7000 was the best built and
best looking DVD player around. Sony really did make a statement with that
piece. We are still waiting for Sony to make a replacement that exceeds their
work on the 7000. The 7700 was the direct replacement for the 7000 and it was a step backwards
in the performance department for Sony. It was also the first Sony player to
have the Chroma Upsampling Error, something the 7000 did not have. Sony replaced the 7700 with the 9000. In the build quality department, the
9000 was better built than either the 7700 or 7000, but it still suffered from
the Chroma Upsampling Error. It had some impressive video performance but wasn't
so good in the deinterlacing department. It appears the new 999 is the replacement for the 9000, but just like the
7700 did not meet the bar set by the 7000, the 999 does not meet the bar set by
the 9000. Deinterlacing Sony is no longer using the gmVLX1A they used on the 9000, which is generally
good. We believe they are using some form of their DRC technology. Mostly it
works better than the gmVLX1A, but there are some new quirks, including some
that we didn't see in the previous players like the 700P. There are a couple of adjustments to the deinterlacer available, but we left
both controls in their default position as we don’t expect users to have to
adjust the deinterlacer for each film. Overall, the deinterlacing was OK on this player. It failed the bad edit
test, but did somewhat better than some other players in the shootout. The biggest surprise was the Super Speedway test. This disc is encoded as
film and the 3-2 pulldown signature is just fine. The scene we use to test
contains a lot of fine detail and the test was introduced to check the bad edit
settings in the FLI2200 from Sage. We never really expected any other player to
fail this test and we were surprised that Sony dropped to video during the pan
of the stadium. The 999 did eventually switch back to film mode, but it should
never have been in video to begin with. There are at least 40 frames spent in
video, which shows up as a moiré pattern in the bleachers. We suspect that the player has some technology similar to the bad edit
detector in the FLI2200, which detects things that look like combing and drop to
video mode when they occur. If so, it does not appear it has been fine-tuned
yet. In fact, when we looked further we found several occurrences of this
problem. This can also be seen in the film ET. When ET comes out of the closet,
the window blinds in the background break up into moiré. This same behavior
could be found on More Tales of the City, it would constantly switch between
film and video mode. It was very distracting. This appeared to be a common theme
on this player with every disc we tried. If you did not know it was not supposed
to flicker, shimmer, or be filed with moiré you might not know it was a problem. The Basics The 999 still suffers from the Chroma Upsampling Error, which is unusual
considering Sony has a lower priced Home theater in a Box that has resolved this
problem. Why would Sony use an inferior MPEG decoder in their supposed flagship
product? The layer change was slower than average taking around 2 ľ seconds on our
disc. The overall performance was also a bit slower than normal, but far from
the slowest in the bunch. We rated it a 2.5 in terms of overall responsiveness. Out of the box, the image appeared to be very punchy. We quickly noticed that
most whites were clipped on our display. We pulled contrast way down from where
it had been and the detail in the whites returned. Once we got it on the scope
we clearly saw why the whites where clipped and the image was so punchy. We
measured the top of the ramp at 106 IRE, which is very hot. This was a lot
hotter than all of the other DVD players. If you put side by side and did not
bother to adjust any picture controls, the Sony would appear to have more snap
and be brighter than the other player. However this is easily corrected by
pulling contrast down to where it belongs. This is a very large error. Was it simply a mistake on their part or a
gimmick to make it stand out on the showroom floor? We don’t know, but we do
think people have a right to expect standard voltage levels from an expensive
flagship player. Amazingly, this player actually has several video presets and
they actually change the video levels, but none of them is correct. On the good side, the component timing on this player was the best of the
bunch and was pretty much dead on. It was the only player in shootout 3 to be
under 2ns. On the bad side, this was one of only two players that was not capable of
reproducing blacker than black picture information. All below black information
was clipped. This causes problems with the shadow detail, as there are a lot of
films with below-black information in the darkest details on screen. All of
those details become flat even black and look unnatural with the black is
clipped. There is no technical reason to do it, and no limitation of the DACs
they chose; it's just poor attention to details. The frequency response of the player was very good overall. This player is
using the new 14-bit / 108 MHz video DAC from Analog Devices and this one part
costs more than some Apex DVD players. There was 1 line cropped from the bottom of the image and 1 sample cropped
from the right. In general, we think Sony can do better than this. Especially at this price
point, it's just not competitive with other players that get more core details
right. The shimmering problem with high detail scenes is alone annoying enough
to keep us from recommending this player.
Video Frequency Response
Sony
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This is perhaps the lowest-priced serious progressive player we've seen.
While the MSRP is $119, we bought ours at Best Buy for $69. This player is using
an all-in-one chip from Cirrus Logic. The chip does MPEG decoding,
deinterlacing, and video encoding (digital/analog conversion of the video). From
what we understand, the cost of the Cirrus Logic chip alone is around $20 in
lots of 10,000. Someone is not making any money on this player. Deinterlacing The Cirrus Logic chip had the same issues as most of the other combined MPEG
decoder/deinterlacers we've seen - it's a flag reader, and failed most of the
deinterlacing tests that involve flag patterns other than the standard NTSC 3-2
film pulldown. Amazingly, it wouldn't go to film mode on material that was encoded with the
extremely common "alternating progressive flag" problem unless we forced it into
film mode. There's no excuse for this. There must be hundreds of films with this
problem, including many huge hits like Titanic, Austin Powers, and Monsters
Inc. In fact, all of the players passed this test in shootout 1. We assumed
that every chipset was designed to deal with this problem properly, so we
stopped running the test in shootout 2. If we hadn't (just for grins) run the
test again on this DVD player, we might never have found out that there are
still players that fail to recognize this issue. Clearly, we can't assume that
every chipset manufacturer has done their homework. The Basics What do you expect when you pay $69 for a DVD player? The biggest surprise
for us was that this player does NOT have the Chroma Upsampling Error CUE). That
pretty much throws down the gauntlet - if they can make a player with no chroma
error for $69 retail, there's no excuse for any other manufacturers not to fix
it. White on this player is extremely low at 72 IRE, instead of the standard 100
IRE. You will really need to crank contrast up on your display, which will of
course cause all the other inputs to have horrible white clipping, unless you
can dedicate a separate memory on your display just for this DVD player. This
player is one of two players in shootout 3 that is not capable of reproducing
below black picture information. We used to think that below black was only used
for standard PLUGE test patterns for setting black level, but it turns out that
hard clipping the below-black information causes odd artifacts in shadow areas.
Many films have shadow details encoded below black. When the player clips them
off, they're lost for good and no tweaking of the display can cure it. The video on this player is soft! We wonder if the anti-imaging filters were
optimized for 480i instead of 480p, which would explain the steep roll-off. The
player is down 1 dB at 6 MHz. It is down a little over 2 dB at 8.36 MHz. And
finally it is down 3.56 dB at 10 MHz. The layer change is ultra fast and we estimate it takes around .1 seconds.
However the player is a bit schizophrenic on overall performance. Sometimes it
jams from one menu to the next while other times it takes seconds. It also takes
a long time to load a DVD. We rate the overall performance as a 2. Both the Y-Pb and Y-Pr YC delay are also greater than 5ns. There are 2 pixels
cropped from the top, 1 from the bottom, 5 from the left and 0 from the right. Overall this player is somewhat better than we expected, given the price. Still, we'd
certainly recommend spending a few dollars more to buy something that gets more
of the details correct.
Video Frequency Response
CyberHome
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The new Toshiba models use an all-in-one solution from Zoran, the Vaddis V.
It includes deinterlacing, aspect ratio control, and video DACs all-in-one. Deinterlacing We're usually unimpressed by the deinterlacing in the all-in-one MPEG
decoder/deinterlacers. So far, they've always used the MPEG flags to decide
whether to go into film mode, which doesn't work very well for a wide variety of
material. And they never have motion-adaptive video deinterlacing, which makes a
big difference on video material and those times when the player has to drop out
of film mode. This player (and chipset) was a pleasant surprise. The film mode decision
making is based on cadence, not flags. And there is a simple motion-adaptive
video deinterlacing algorithm. It's not a FFLI2200 or SiI504, but we are happy
to see Zoran moving to the next level. The video deinterlacing ultimately fails our "motion adaptive" tests because
we require per-pixel motion adaptive algorithms for a passing grade. This one
appears to change its algorithm in areas of the screen larger than a single
pixel but smaller than one quarter of the screen. We couldn't tell precisely how
big the areas involved were. Again, while this isn't the gold standard, it's a
step in the right direction, and vaults them over all the other all-in-one
chipsets, at least in deinterlacing. The Basics The bad news: like all Toshiba DVD players before it, it still has the Chroma
Upsampling Error. Toshiba wrote the DVD spec so how is it they have the problem?
They should be leading by example. We spoke with Toshiba at Cedia prior to the
Vaddis V models and they had hinted that this would be resolved, looks like they
failed to resolve it. It is not nearly as bad as Sony or Pioneer, because the
Zoran uses excellent filters to do the upsampling, but wrong is wrong. Given that the Toshiba clearly has the best upsampling of the players that
have the error, we wondered if the bug was still visible at normal viewing
distances. We did a test using chapter 4 on Toy Story. We had to backup 20’
before we could no longer see the bug. This was with the image set to 65”
diagonal. We are pretty sensitive to the bug, but it does illustrate our core
point: even the best wrong chroma upsampling still looks pretty bad. The scaling engine in the Vaddis V is excellent. It is every bit as good as
the scaling engine in the Mediamatics Pantera II and perhaps better. The aspect
controls that Toshiba exposes, however, are not as well implemented as they are
in the Panasonic RP91 with the auto selection and pre-defined modes, but with a
couple of button pushes, you can get the mode you want. The 480p output has 7.5 IRE black setup and we could not find a way to set it
to 0 IRE, which is the standard for progressive video. There may be a way to do
it, but if so we couldn't find it in the menus or the manual, so in the end we
failed it on black level. While it passed below-black at 7.5 IRE, we have no
idea if it passes it at 0 IRE. In the past we have seen DVD players that pass
BTB at 7.5 IRE and not at 0 IRE. We are going to give Toshiba the benefit of the
doubt here and pass BTB. The white level on the 3800 is a little low at 97 IRE and outside of the
requirement we have set. Black is also a little low at 7.14 IRE, which is not
bad. The frequency response is virtually ruler flat. Both Y-Pb and Y-Pr are
beyond the 5ns tolerance set forth by EIA-770. There are 0 lines cropped from
the top and bottom and only 1 sample cropped from each side, which is very good. The layer change under worst-case conditions takes around 2.8 seconds to
complete. All in all the player is pretty slow at navigating a DVD. Toshiba is
also pretty strict at handling "Operation Prohibit" codes, which means that if a
DVD says you can’t skip past it, you can’t skip past it! Other players are a bit
more lenient with some of the grayer areas (and a few of the less gray areas),
and frankly we wish Toshiba would lighten up. Overall, this is a good player in lots of areas. The low score is perhaps misleading, because it failed many of the tests by fairly small margins. The lack of standard 0 IRE
black is frustrating, but practically speaking most people will be able to
handle it fine, perhaps even easier than the "correct" 0 IRE level. (This is
because of limitations in the way most televisions are designed, but that's
a rant for another article.) The biggest flaw in our opinion is the Chroma
Upsampling Error. To the best of our knowledge, Zoran knew about the error. Yet
they didn't fix it, which just boggles our minds.
Video Frequency Response
Toshiba
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The new Toshiba models use an all-in-one solution from Zoran, the Vaddis V.
It includes deinterlacing, aspect ratio control, and video DACs all-in-one. Deinterlacing We're usually unimpressed by the deinterlacing in the all-in-one MPEG
decoder/deinterlacers. So far, they've always used the MPEG flags to decide
whether to go into film mode, which doesn't work very well for a wide variety of
material. And they never have motion-adaptive video deinterlacing, which makes a
big difference on video material and those times when the player has to drop out
of film mode. This player (and chipset) was a pleasant surprise. The film mode decision
making is based on cadence, not flags. And there is a simple motion-adaptive
video deinterlacing algorithm. It's not a FLI2200 or SiI504, but we are happy to
see Zoran moving to the next level. The video deinterlacing ultimately fails our "motion adaptive" tests because
we require per-pixel motion adaptive algorithms for a passing grade. This one
appears to change its algorithm in areas of the screen larger than a single
pixel but smaller than one quarter of the screen. We couldn't tell precisely how
big the areas involved were. Again, while this isn't the gold standard, it's a
step in the right direction, and vaults them over all the other all-in-one
chipsets, at least in deinterlacing. The Basics The bad news: like all Toshiba DVD players before it, it still has the Chroma
Upsampling Error. Toshiba wrote the DVD spec so how is it they have the problem?
They should be leading by example. We spoke with Toshiba at Cedia prior to the
Vaddis V models and they had hinted that this would be resolved, looks like they
failed to resolve it. It is not nearly as bad as Sony or Pioneer, because the
Zoran uses excellent filters to do the upsampling, but wrong is wrong. Given that the Toshiba clearly has the best upsampling of the players that
have the error, we wondered if the bug was still visible at normal viewing
distances. We did a test using chapter 4 on Toy Story. We had to backup 20’
before we could no longer see the bug. This was with the image set to 65”
diagonal. We are pretty sensitive to the bug, but it does illustrate our core
point: even the best wrong chroma upsampling still looks pretty bad. The scaling engine in the Vaddis V is excellent. It is every bit as good as
the scaling engine in the Mediamatics Pantera II and perhaps better. The aspect
controls that Toshiba exposes, however, are not as well implemented as they are
in the Panasonic RP91 with the auto selection and pre-defined modes, but with a
couple of button pushes, you can get the mode you want. The 480p output has 7.5 IRE black setup and we could not find a way to set it
to 0 IRE, which is the standard for progressive video. There may be a way to do
it, but if so we couldn't find it in the menus or the manual, so in the end we
failed it on black level. While it passed below-black at 7.5 IRE, we have no
idea if it passes it at 0 IRE. In the past we have seen DVD players that pass
BTB at 7.5 IRE and not at 0 IRE. We are going to give Toshiba the benefit of the
doubt here and pass BTB. The white level on the 5700 is virtually perfect at 99.68 IRE. Black is also
virtually perfect at 7.56 IRE. Virtually perfect in the sense that the player
has setup on all the time and there is no way to remove it. The frequency
response, while not as flat as the 3800, is very good. Both Y-Pb and Y-Pr are
beyond the 5ns tolerance set forth by EIA-770. There are 0 lines cropped from
the top and bottom. There is 1 sample cropped from the left and 3 from the
right. The layer change under worst-case conditions takes around 2.8 seconds to
complete. All in all the player is pretty slow at navigating a DVD. Toshiba is
also pretty strict at handling "Operation Prohibit" codes, which means that if a
DVD says you can’t skip past it, you can’t skip past it! Other players are a bit
more lenient with some of the grayer areas (and a few of the less gray areas),
and frankly we wish Toshiba would lighten up. Overall, this is a good player in lots of areas. The low score is perhaps misleading, because it failed many of the tests by fairly small margins. The lack of standard 0 IRE black is frustrating, but practically speaking most people will be able to handle it fine, perhaps even easier than the "correct" 0 IRE level. (This is because of limitations in the way most televisions are designed, but that's a rant for another article.) The biggest flaw in our opinion is the Chroma Upsampling Error. To the best of our knowledge, Zoran knew about the error. Yet they didn't fix it, which just boggles our minds.
Video Frequency Response
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This player is a "universal" player that plays DVD-video as well as DVD-Audio
and SACD. It's based on a Pioneer design similar to the DV-45A and the DV-47Ai.
It passed and failed a slightly different set of tests than either of the
Pioneers, but core performance was extremely similar to the 47A. (We included
47Ai in shootout 3 not the 47A.) Deinterlacing Like the Pioneer it is based on, at its core this is a flag-reading player,
though it does have a cadence-reading solution internally that it falls back on
when the progressive flag is set to "false." It doesn't seem to have much, if
any bad edit detection at all, as its performance on our test was just terrible. The Basics Just like the Onkyo and Pioneers, this player suffers from the Chroma
Upsampling Error (CUE) in all cases. The visibility of the error is fairly
severe compared to some other players like the latest Toshibas. Also like the Onkyo and Pioneers, the white level is incorrect. However while
the Onkyo is too high the Marantz is too low. (Interestingly, it is at exactly
the same level as the Pioneer DV-45A.) The frequency response looks pretty decent on this player. It has just a
slight roll-off. The component timing is also within spec for both Y-Pb and Y-Pr. The player
is also capable of reproducing below black picture information. There appears to be 4 pixels cropped from the bottom of the image. We feel
that any amount of pixel cropping from the top or bottom is unacceptable. There
is no technical reason for it - the 480p spec allows for 480 visible lines. The layer change takes around 1.25 seconds to complete under the worst case
scenario. We rated the overall response time of the player a 2.5, which is below
average. Overall, we were unimpressed with this player for video playback. There are
just too many things wrong or below average in performance. That it is THX
certified reduces further the credibility of THX as a certification standard.
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This is another player based on a Pioneer design similar to the 45A and 47A,
though not exactly the same as either one. Like both of those players, it can
play SACD and DVD-A as well as DVD-Video. Deinterlacing The deinterlacing on this player, like the Pioneers and the Marantz, is poor,
especially at this MSRP. There really is no other way to describe it. It is, at
the core, a flag-reading player with a cadence-reading solution for sequences
where the progressive flag is not set. However, because it has little or no
bad-edit detection, the player combs on tons of material. The Basics The downside of using another company's platform as a starting point for a
player is that it inherits all of the flaws of the original. In this case,
because of its lineage it suffers from the Chroma Upsampling Error, badly. In its default position the white is around 102.5 IRE. This is just outside
of our window of passing. It is possible to get it back down to a correct level
with the player's own adjustments, though most consumers will not have the scope required to get this correct.
Below is a screen shot of where we set the white level and sharpness to obtain
the correct white level and flattest frequency response. We do want to note that
we saw a bit of contouring when we started to lower the white level, which
suggestions this is being done in the digital domain and may in fact be causing
problems.
The mid section is a bit hot, but not outrageous. The component timings for both Y-Pb and Y-Pr were within spec and this player
is capable of reproducing below black picture information. There were 4 lines cropped from the bottom of the image. We feel that any
amount of pixel cropping from the top or bottom is unacceptable. There is no
technical reason for it - the 480p spec allows for 480 visible lines, and 476 is
4 too few. The layer change takes around 1.25 seconds to complete under the worst case
scenario. We rated the overall response time of the player a 2.5. When used with the Sony 10HT, there are faint vertical lines on-screen,
probably as a result of outside interference leaking into the ground. We were
able to get rid of this by pulling the luma cable out just until the shield was
no longer touching. The Sony S9000ES had what looked like the same issue and
Sony actually came up with a fix for it. Perhaps the same fix would work for
this player. As with its close siblings from Marantz and Pioneer, we just weren't
impressed by this player, especially at its price point. That it is THX
certified reduces further the credibility of THX as a certification standard.
Video Frequency Response
Onkyo
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The Pioneer 45A is a "universal" player, which means that in addition to DVD Video, it also plays DVD Audio and SACD discs. We didn't review the audio features of the player. Deinterlacing We were amazed to find that this player is a step backward in
deinterlacing performance from the DV-37 and DV-38A (which didn't have the best deinterlacing to
begin with). The 45A appears to be a pure flag reader, with none of the cadence
analysis the 47Ai has. What is even more surprising is that this player does not
even have motion-adaptive video deinterlacing, which all of the Pioneer
progressive players have had (with the exception of the 434, which doesn't
deserve to be called progressive). The Basics Like all Pioneer players thus far, the 45A suffers from the Chroma Upsampling Error,
and it's very visible. Enough said. The white level is low on this player at 96.88 IRE. There really is no valid reason for
the levels being this low. The video encoders used by Pioneer all come from
Analog Devices and can be set pretty close to perfect, at least within the +/- 2
IRE window we use for ranking. You may need to bring contrast up when using this
player. The frequency response in this player is hotter than any other player. It
looks like they have really emphasized the mid band frequencies. At first
glance, this will make the 45A appear sharper than other players. Once you have
properly adjusted the sharpness control on your display, this difference will go
away. The component timing is outside of spec. The 45A does reproduce blacker than
black picture information, which is at least one nice thing we can say about the
player. There was 1 sample cropped from the left and 3 from the right, which we
consider acceptable. We get accused of being biased against Pioneer constantly, which we're not. Many of us at Secrets of Home Theater & Hi Fi are fans of many Pioneer products, including their audio gear, TVs, and laserdisc players. But it's hard to be fans of their DVD players when they produce players like this. It's not a terrible player, but given that several cheaper players are better overall, we just can't recommend this one, at least based on progressive video quality.
Video Frequency Response
Pioneer Elite
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This is Microsoft's first serious attempt to create a platform for a complete
media center for a home. It combines music playback, DVD playback, still picture
display, live TV, and a personal video recorder. The interface is fairly
intuitive, and all the core functionality is available from an integrated
infrared remote. We only evaluated the DVD player. This is a unique product because the configuration we tested is only one of
many possible configurations, and the final results will vary based on the
hardware used. Even the software the PC manufacturer uses makes a difference,
because Windows XP Media Center doesn't include a DVD decoder. Instead it relies
on whatever decoder is installed on the machine, though it does integrate it
into the Media Center UI. For our setup we used an nVidia 4600Ti video card and the NVDVD decoder, which
was developed in-house by nVidia. From our testing, we believe the Ti offers the
best deinterlacing within the nVidia family, and NVDVD 2.22 offers the best
decoding available right now. ATI video cards also do well when using the
Catalyst 2.4 drivers, with the exception of the 9700. As of this writing the video
drivers for the 9700 were not ready for prime time. The machine we used was provided by the eHome team at Microsoft. The display
drivers we used for testing were version 40.80, which at that time were unsigned
drivers. 41.09 are the most recent drivers available from nVidia. You can also
purchase NVDVD 2.22 directly from the
nVidia website for $39.95. Deinterlacing The new nVidia hardware and software is supposedly designed to offer two
features that had been previously unavailable on an HTPC: cadence-based film
mode analysis (instead of flag-based), and motion-adaptive deinterlacing.
Unfortunately, we were unable to see cadence analysis in action. No matter how
we set the drivers and settings, we still got results that clearly pointed to
flag reading. We did get motion-adaptive deinterlacing working, and it's a great step in
the right direction for handling video content. However, what we saw still
didn't look nearly as good as the best motion-adaptive video deinterlacing in
chips such as the Silicon Image SiI504 or Genesis FLI2200, or even Sony's DRC
chips. The test patterns we used didn't look quite right, as though one field
was dominant and the other recessive. We suspect that the algorithm nVidia is
using uses one field as the primary source for the final frame, and mixes in
some of the other field in order to improve the vertical resolution. But they
appear to not be giving each field an equal share. One field would generally be
dimmer in the final mix, and the other field brighter, as though the temporal
filter coefficients weren't 50/50. In addition, on the Video Essentials Zone
Plate it just wouldn't give us a full-resolution image, even on the film-mode
section. By our standards, that's a fail. Since we weren't able to get cadence reading working, we had to fail the player
on essentially all the "unusual flag" tests. The Basics The interface was smooth and refined, with generally well designed menus and
graphics. Navigating the menus to get to the various functions like DVD playback
was easy. The remote felt very much like a DVD remote, and had most of the
standard buttons. There were some odd exceptions. For example, the remote has
only one menu button, labeled "DVD menu," whereas a DVD player always has two,
labeled "menu" and "top menu." After some experimentation, we found that the
"DVD menu" button corresponds to "top menu," which is the button on a DVD player
that navigates to the topmost menu on the disc. We found this incredibly
annoying, as we're used to using the normal "menu" button to return to the last
menu visited. If you're several levels deep in the menu system, play some video,
realize you've made a mistake, and want to go back to the menu you were just
looking at, Media Center has no way to do that. In addition, the remote has no "subtitle" button, "audio" button, or "angle"
button. These are all standard DVD buttons, and on some discs, you need to use
them to access features. Media Center has an incredibly convoluted and
non-standard way of selecting subtitles and audio tracks that we are sure would
not work with some discs. To select a subtitle or audio track, one must navigate to the Media Center
menu, go several menus deep into the options, and then select a subtitle
language from a huge list of essentially every available language that a DVD
could use. To get to German, for example, you have to go through Armenian,
Azerbaijanian, Basque, etc. by pressing a button many many times. You get the
same set huge of languages to choose from no matter what languages are available
on the disc. Who thought this was a good idea? As a method of setting your
"preferred" subtitle language, it makes some sort of sense. As a primary method
of changing subtitles, it's terrible. And what happens if a disc has three or
four "English" audio tracks, as many often do? There isn't any way to
distinguish between them. You can, in most cases, change audio tracks from the
DVD's own menus, but if you're used to starting the movie and hitting the
"audio" button to get to a commentary track or switch to the 5.1 audio, Media
Center doesn't offer that as an option. The end result is that Media Center feels almost like a standalone DVD
player, but the omissions and deviations from the DVD standards are frustrating.
Still, it's by far the best out-of-box UI for an HTPC that we've ever seen. For
most people, these menu issues will be minor annoyances; the core UI
functionality works fine. The overall picture quality from the hardware and NVDVD was excellent. Like
other HTPCs, there is no pixel cropping and extremely clean video with almost no
visible ringing or noise. Of course like most video cards, there are no
anti-imaging filters other than basic EMF and RMI because a PC video card must
run at several different scan rates and you can only really design a filter for
one scan rate. The chroma upsampling in nDVD is the best we have seen from any
DVD player. As a DVD player, Windows XP Media Center (with NVDVD decoder) worked well, in
fact better than any HTPC we've looked at so far. The remote gives you most of
the feel and usability of a standalone player, which has been a sore point for
many people who are uncomfortable with using a PC as a media hub. The
deinterlacing still isn't at the level of the best
standalone players, but it's come leaps and bounds in the last year or so.
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The Ultra is Silicon Image's new entry into the standalone deinterlacer market. It's
not a scaler, but it fills a niche for those who just want quality 480i to 480p
conversion and don't need upscaling. Deinterlacing The iScan Ultra is based on the Silicon Image SiI504 chip, and like other
players and deinterlacers that use that chip it had stellar deinterlacing
results. There were no significant flaws that we could find. It just works well nearly
all the time. The Basics The Ultra is loaded with new features, and represents a substantially more
complex and flexible product than the three previous models. There are six
inputs instead of three -- two each of composite, s-video, and component. There
is a passthrough port for HDTV signals. The front panel has a much nicer
interface for adjusting parameters, and there are more parameters to adjust,
including two levels of sharpness control. The most interesting addition is a chroma filter, which almost completely
fixes the Chroma Upsampling Error as well as the interlaced chroma problem we
cover in our DVD chroma article. We found that it worked as intended, removing
essentially all traces of chroma upsampling artifacts, even from players with
incredibly strong artifacts. With DirecTV, which like all other MPEG-based video
sources suffers from the same artifacts as DVD players, the improvements were
also significant and worthwhile. The Ultra also has a full set of aspect controls, including zooming
letterboxed content, a feature sorely missed from the previous models (and
missing from the Focus Enhancements CS-1). We didn't do any evaluation of the basic video quality measurements on the
scope, but we did look at key test patterns like resolution and Y/C delay, and
saw nothing out of the ordinary. Resolution loss was minimal. The 6.75 MHz
pattern on Avia was still visible, though very slightly washed out and a bit
more aliased than normal. Y/C delay was on the money. Default sharpness was
neither too high or too low. Overall, we give this box a strong thumbs up. If you don't need scaling, but
would like to have solid 480 line deinterlacing, we don't know of a better
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The CS-HD is Focus Enhancement's entry-level scaler, and it's quite powerful
for its price point. It's basically a slightly less feature-laden version of
their CS-1 product, so you might want to take a look at our notes on the CS-1 as
well. Deinterlacing The deinterlacer at the heart of the CS-HD is the SiI504 from Silicon Image,
and like most every product using that chip it passed all of our tests well. The
CS-1 had a problem with the high-detail scene in Super Speedway, but we didn't
see that with the CS-HD. Like the CS-1, this unit offers a "film bias" mode for
deinterlacing that we don't recommend at all. Like the CS-1, the CS-HD doesn't hide the interlaced chroma problem (ICP)
with a chroma filter. We continue to think it would be a great enhancement. The
iScan Ultra and the Faroudja products have shown the way, and we hope every
other manufacturer will get on the bandwagon soon. The Basics There are plenty of inputs on the back panel, which makes it useable for most
people as the core video switcher in their setup. There are 2 composite, 2
S-Video, and 2 component interlaced inputs. These will accept any 480i material
for deinterlacing and scaling. There is also a 480p input for VGA and component.
The progressive inputs bypass the SiI504 deinterlacer and just go through the
scaler. The user interface is simple to navigate and can be controlled from the front
panel or the supplied remote. There are simple input and output switches that
choose the source and output. There are controls for the deinterlacer on the
setup menus as well as picture controls including contrast, brightness, color,
and tint. Overall, this is a user-friendly scaler that offers excellent deinterlacing
and scaling, at a very friendly price point.
Two output formats are available: VGA (RGB+HV) or component (YPbPr).
Pre-programmed output resolutions include all the standards: 1080i, 720p, 480p,
800x600 and others. There were all the aspect ratio controls that one might need
for various input types.
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This is a scaler/deinterlacer which is essentially similar to the AVToolbox AVT-3700 (also covered in this shootout), though with a black case rather than silver. Zinwell designed both units, and says they are slightly different, though we did not see any differences in our testing. We knew nothing about this unit before it was sent to us to evaluate. Given
its very low price point, we had very low expectations. Those expectations were
largely shattered. Deinterlacing This box uses the Trident DPTV chip for video decoding, deinterlacing,
scaling, and reencoding. Essentially, it's a box wrapped around a single chip,
with a bit of extra analog circuitry and power supply. The deinterlacing on this
box is superb. It's the first shipping deinterlacing chip we've seen that
challenges the supremacy of the Silicon Image and Genesis/Faroudja chips. Take a
look at the test results - it passed everything. We tried a few torture tests
that we don't normally run on deinterlacers because we suspect they aren't fair.
It passed those as well. Judged purely on deinterlacing performance, this is an
amazing value. It doesn't have any kind of diagonal processing like Faroudja's
DCDi, and it doesn't have a chroma filter to help with the CUE and ICP, but
that's perhaps picking nits. The Basics We weren't able to get this device on the scope, as we evaluated it late in
the shootout process. Most of the core functionality was excellent, with a few
exceptions we'll cover in a moment. The A/D conversion was very good, in fact
better than most analog scalers we've looked at (though the iScan Ultra comes
very close). We could not see any resolution loss at all on the Avia resolution
wedge, and the 6.75 MHz pattern was clean. The scaling was similarly clean, and
better than the Focus Enhancements CS-1, and even better than any HTPC we've
looked at. In both cases we should note that the improvements are relatively
subtle. It's not that the quality "blows away" the competition, it's just very
surprising to see this level of quality in such an inexpensive product. The first negative issue that stands out is that the 480p output has completely
incorrect voltages. Both whites and blacks were crushed. They are so wrong that
we were unable to correct them with the settings on the box, or the controls on
the display. We think that perhaps the box is incorrectly using the RGBHV
voltages for 480p output, even though it was set for YPbPr at the time. This is
just a guess. 720p, 1080i, and all the computer resolutions all had at least
nominally correct voltages. Given that this is a deinterlacer/scaler, not many
customers will be buying it to use the 480p output, but it's still
disappointing. The second issue, and most problematic, is that the box introduces a large
and visible chroma delay, and the delay is different for each channel, in some
cases in opposite directions. This is very disappointing, as it's a very visible
flaw and one that could be eliminated with careful engineering. The delay is
different at 1080i than it is on 720p, so it's on the output stage and not the
input. The fact that it changes at different output resolutions tends to suggest
that it's an internal flaw in the chip, but we don't know that for sure. From a usability standpoint, the box is functional, but doesn't have as many
inputs or bells and whistles as more expensive scalers. It has only a three
inputs, one each of composite, s-video, and component, so most people would not
be able to use it as a core switcher. The interface is all on screen, and
controlled by a perfectly functional remote. It has brightness, contrast, color,
and hue controls, and an aspect ratio control that can do a 16x9 shrink for
playing anamorphic DVDs on a 4x3 display device. There is no control for
zooming letterbox movies on a 16x9 display, or windowboxing 4x3 movies on a 16x9 display. When the device is in YPbPr mode, the aspect ratio control is disabled, and only the 480p, 720p, and 1080i resolutions are available. If the output is changed to RGBHV, then only "computer" resolutions (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, and 1280x1024) are available, and the aspect ratio control allows one to change between "normal" and "16x9 shrink" modes. Build quality is perfectly adequate. It didn't seem flimsy, but
clearly you don't get massive power supplies and mahogany panels for this price. In the final analysis, this is an impressive item for the price, marred by
some disappointing flaws. If the chroma delay and incorrect voltages were fixed,
it would be an astounding value. We are looking forward to seeing other products
that make use of this chipset, as they've come out of the gate strong.
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| 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Recovery Time Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Film Mode High Detail | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP | Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Video Levels Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames |
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| 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Recovery Time Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags Bad Edit Video to Film Transition | Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Video Levels Blacker-than-Black YC Delay Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames | |
This is a standalone deinterlacer/scaler, not a DVD player, but we included it for comparison
purposes. The shootout is primarily about deinterlacing, and people often wonder
if outboard deinterlacer/scalers will give them results as good as a progressive
DVD player. Deinterlacing The deinterlacer at the heart of the CS-1 is the SiI504 from Silicon Image,
which is an excellent product and passed all the key tests in auto mode with one
small hiccup on the High Detail test pattern. Things get a little uglier in the
film bias mode. We highly recommend you do not use film bias. The CS-1 doesn't hide
the interlaced chroma problem, but then nothing really does other than Faroudja
and the DVDO iScan Ultra. We wouldn't call this a deal-breaker. If they release
a new model next year, though, we would hope it would have a chroma filter. The Basics While the deinterlacing is handled by the SiI504, as mentioned above, we are not sure which scaling engine they are using. It comes with several
pre-defined scan rates, and with their software you can create your own. Because we didn't get our evaluation unit until after we had run our video
quality testing, we did not measure any of the video characteristics of this
product, like Y/C delay and frequency response. There are plenty of inputs on the back panel, which makes it useable for most
people as the core video switcher in their setup. There are 2 composite, 2
S-Video, and 2 component interlaced inputs. These will accept any 480i material
for de-interlacing and scaling. There is also a 480P input for VGA and
component. This is great for those of you who want to use your X-Box or other
high resolution gaming systems and want to use the native resolution of the
game. The progressive inputs bypass the SiI504 deinterlacer and just go through
the scaler. Two output formats are available: VGA (RGB+HV) or component (YPbPr).
Pre-programmed output resolutions include all the standards: 1080i, 720P, 480P,
800x600 and others. Those looking for more flexibility can hook the CS-1 right
into a PC via a RS-232 connection. With the PC interface, one can customize
resolutions and synch signals as well as aspect ratios. Like most units that
use the SiI504 chip there is some aspect ratio control. Users can choose
between an anamorphic source or a 4:3 window box for full screen material.
Unfortunately there are no zoom functions for letterbox material, which
surprised us greatly. The user interface is simple to navigate and can be controlled from the front
panel or the supplied remote. There are simple input and output switches that
choose the source and output. There are controls for the deinterlacer on the
setup menus as well as picture controls including contrast, brightness, color
and tint. There were some visible scaling artifacts when looking at the WHQL wedge.
Horizontal lines (vertical resolution) contained patterns of darker lines. It
isn't terrible scaling, but we've certainly seen better. Overall this is a very user friendly scaler that offers excellent
deinterlacing and decent scaling.
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Lumagen - VisionPro
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The Vision Pro is a new scaler/deinterlacer from Lumagen. It's their step-up
model from the basic Vision unit, and it adds lots more inputs and features. Deinterlacing The Vision Pro uses the Silicon Image SiI504 chip for deinterlacing, and as
usual it passed most of our tests fine. The device came to us with "film bias"
turned on, and in general we found that it caused more problems than leaving it
off. "Video bias" is just the normal SiI504 mode which switches automatically
from video to film as needed, and we found that turning on film bias just
increased the amount of combing on video material. The Basics This box has a lot of inputs, and all of them use the superior BNC
connectors. Getting all your equipment hooked up may involve lots of BNC
adapters (though it comes with a lot of cables and adapters as standard
accessories), but the peace of mind that comes from using high-quality bayonet
connectors is worth it for a high-end system. There are eight inputs and two
pass-throughs, which is more than enough for most people. In general, we were impressed with the Vision Pro. Lumagen has packed an
enormous amount of flexibility into this unit, and have come out of the gate
with a strong contender. Assuming they fix the bad edit issue, it should compare
favorably to any other high-end scaler out there.
There was one unexpected result in that it failed the bad edit test with two
combs. We aren't sure what caused the problem, but given that any number of
other DVD players and scalers that use this chip can pass this test, we have
confidence that the engineers at Lumagen and/or Silicon Image can track down the
problem and get it fixed.
There are a lot of menu options available, allowing you to tweak just about
every feature you could ever want to tweak. Resolutions, cropping, scan rates -
all are adjustable. The aspect controls work as you would expect them to. The
remote worked fine; it's arguably not a perfect button layout, but there aren't
that many buttons. Most high-end users will be programming the functions they
care about most into their universal remote anyway.
If we could add only one thing to this unit it would be a chroma filter like the
one on the iScan Ultra. It's not a complicated filter to implement - a simple
3-tap tent filter will do the trick. Once you get used to not ever seeing the
chroma bug (CUE) on screen, switching to something without the filtering is like
a glass of cold water in the face.
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AV Toolbox - AVT-3700
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| 3-2 Cadence, Film Flags 3-2 Cadence, Alt. Flags 3-2 Cadence, Video Flags 3-2 Cadence, Mixed Flags 2-2 Cadence, Film Flags Film Mode High Detail Bad Edit Video to Film Transition Incorrect Progressive Flags Motion Adaptive | Recovery Time | Chroma, 4:2:0 ICP Video Levels YC Delay | Layer Change Responsiveness Chroma, 3-2 Film Flags Chroma, 3-2 Alt. Flags Chroma, 2-2 Film Flags Blacker-than-Black Image Cropping Sync Subtitle to Frames |
This is a scaler/deinterlacer sold by AVToolbox under the name "ImageMAX", but designed by Zinwell and nearly identical to the Brite View scaler they sell. The AVToolbox product has a silver case rather than black, which was the only difference we noted in our testing. We knew nothing about this unit before it was sent to us to evaluate. Given
its very low price point, we had very low expectations. Those expectations were
largely shattered. Deinterlacing This box uses the Trident DPTV chip for video decoding, deinterlacing,
scaling, and reencoding. Essentially, it's a box wrapped around a single chip,
with a bit of extra analog circuitry and power supply. The deinterlacing on this
box is superb. It's the first shipping deinterlacing chip we've seen that
challenges the supremacy of the Silicon Image and Genesis/Faroudja chips. Take a
look at the test results - it passed everything. We tried a few torture tests
that we don't normally run on deinterlacers because we suspect they aren't fair.
It passed those as well. Judged purely on deinterlacing performance, this is an
amazing value. It doesn't have any kind of diagonal processing like Faroudja's
DCDi, and it doesn't have a chroma filter to help with the CUE and ICP, but
that's perhaps picking nits. The Basics We weren't able to get this device on the scope, as we evaluated it late in
the shootout process. Most of the core functionality was excellent, with a few
exceptions we'll cover in a moment. The A/D conversion was very good, in fact
better than most analog scalers we've looked at (though the iScan Ultra comes
very close). We could not see any resolution loss at all on the Avia resolution
wedge, and the 6.75 MHz pattern was clean. The scaling was similarly clean, and
better than the Focus Enhancements CS-1, and even better than any HTPC we've
looked at. In both cases we should note that the improvements are relatively
subtle. It's not that the quality "blows away" the competition, it's just very
surprising to see this level of quality in such an inexpensive product. The first negative issue that stands out is that the 480p output has completely
incorrect voltages. Both whites and blacks were crushed. They are so wrong that
we were unable to correct them with the settings on the box, or the controls on
the display. We think that perhaps the box is incorrectly using the RGBHV
voltages for 480p output, even though it was set for YPbPr at the time. This is
just a guess. 720p, 1080i, and all the computer resolutions all had at least
nominally correct voltages. Given that this is a deinterlacer/scaler, not many
customers will be buying it to use the 480p output, but it's still
disappointing. The second issue, and most problematic, is that the box introduces a large
and visible chroma delay, and the delay is different for each channel, in some
cases in opposite directions. This is very disappointing, as it's a very visible
flaw and one that could be eliminated with careful engineering. The delay is
different at 1080i than it is on 720p, so it's on the output stage and not the
input. The fact that it changes at different output resolutions tends to suggest
that it's an internal flaw in the chip, but we don't know that for sure. From a usability standpoint, the box is functional, but doesn't have as many
inputs or bells and whistles as more expensive scalers. It has only a three
inputs, one each of composite, s-video, and component, so most people would not
be able to use it as a core switcher. The interface is all on screen, and
controlled by a perfectly functional remote. It has brightness, contrast, color,
and hue controls, and an aspect ratio control that can do a 16x9 shrink for
playing anamorphic DVDs on a 4x3 display device. We didn't see a control for
zooming letterbox movies on a 16x9 display. Build quality is perfectly adequate. It didn't seem flimsy, but
clearly you don't get massive power supplies and mahogany panels for this price. In the final analysis, this is an impressive item for the price, marred by
some disappointing flaws. If the chroma delay and incorrect voltages were fixed,
it would be an astounding value. We are looking forward to seeing other products
that make use of this chipset, as they've come out of the gate strong.