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Panasonic DMP-BD30 Blu-ray Player
A Secrets DVD Player Benchmark Review
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Written by Kris Deering   
Thursday, 31 January 2008

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A few years ago, Panasonic released a batch of progressive scan DVD players that took everyone by surprise, offering unsurpassed 480p performance at a price that was almost too good to be true. Unfortunately this trend didn’t last long. Panasonic later went on to release some decent upscaling and progressive scan DVD players, but they relied on some Genesis/Faroudja chips that had inconsistent performance with displays and never quite lived up to the bar set by their earlier players.

The DMP-BD30 (MSRP $499.95 USA) is the second Blu-ray player we’ve evaluated from Panasonic. The BD10 before it was an interesting design, incorporating separate video decoders for DVD and Blu-ray playback, and used a video processing chip we’d only seen one time before (National Semiconducter). The BD30 is a far more streamlined design that makes use of the Sigma Design decoder for both Blu-ray and DVD and uses some of Panasonic’s proprietary video processing techniques.

As a standard DVD player, the BD30 is slightly below average. It is disappointing that we’ve seen so many HD players hit the market with poor SD DVD video performance. While both HD camps tout upconverting ability for DVDs, with some even boasting upscaling that brings DVDs to near HD quality, I’ve yet to be highly impressed with the majority of the designs. And even the ones with decent SD video performance usually suffer from issues in other areas. Hopefully, as more designs are released over this next year, we’ll see an increase in performance on the SD side. This goes a long way in alleviating the need for two players on the rack.

The BD30 reminded me of the Sony Playstation 3 in its performance and had nearly identical results in our DVD benchmark. This player could not pass any of our high detail cadence tests and never locked on once to our resolution wedges. This is surprising considering I’ve never tested a Panasonic player before that couldn’t at least pass our standard 2-3 de-interlacing test.

This player stays in a constant video mode regardless of what you select in the progressive mode menu. This allows it to pass some of the video based material in our testing. Thankfully, this also includes our motion adaptive testing. So if you were strictly watching video based material or anything mastered with a 2-2 cadence, this wouldn’t be a bad solution.

On the core side, the BD30 did quite well. The player retains full head and toe room in the video signal and is only cropping one pixel from the bottom of the image. Y/C delay was not a problem. The Sigma Chip did not fare very well in our chroma testing though. So far the performance of the Sigma chip has been consistent in our tests for the “chroma bug” and constantly fails our test for 2-3 alternating flags as seen in most Disney DVDs, and the chip does not incorporate any type of filtering for 4:2:0 interlaced chroma artifacts.

As far as operability goes, the Panasonic DMP-BD30 is a bit of a mixed bag. Load times are decent, and once a disc is playing, general navigation and chapter skips are quite fast. Layer change times are very poor though and clocked in at a sluggish 1.75 seconds. The remote is also on the poor side, with an unusual button layout and a strange menu access system that has you press Menu then select which menu you want rather than just having a title menu and standard menu button. Responsiveness rates a value of 4.

Here is the Video Frequency Response graph.

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In the graphs below are shown the Benchmark scores. 3 is a Pass, 2 is Borderline, 1 is Fail, and 0 is Not Tested. panasonic-dmp-bd30-blu-ray-player-tests-graph-1.gif

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Conclusions

Like most HD players on the market, the Panasonic DMP-BD30 delivers poor standard DVD playback that is not indicative of its price point. While I was more than happy with its Blu-ray playback capabilities, I would still suggest looking elsewhere for high end DVD playback or keeping your dedicated DVD player if you already have one.

Comments (29)add comment
SD Playback
written by Jim , February 02, 2008

This is a sad thing to see with all of these players scoring so low with SD playback. The one that really got me was the Elite 50. I thought from other readings of owners that this was going to be a stellar unit but from your review in the past it did the "bob thing" with its processing. Very upsetting.

So all in all it seams to me that the Tosh XA2 seems o be the best for SD video out there at this time.

As a side note I would really like to see your thoughts on the Marantz 8001 SD player. I think I got the model right. It's the one under the 9600. Would like to see how it fairs for SD playback as a better priced unit as compared o the 9600??

Thanks,


SD playback
written by Jim , February 02, 2008

It was the 7001 not the 8001. I was off by a number!

Sorry


PS3 Reference - What FW version?
written by Don , February 03, 2008

Kris refers to poor deinterlacing performance by the PS3... I believe the current FW resolves the issue and passes all the HQV tests. Hopefully Kris can revisit the PS3 with the current FW.

Visual aids
written by Jon Perry , February 03, 2008

If 0-3 graphs are the new way to show pass/fails in benchmark tests, then I would like to suggest something easy to do to improve readability of the graphs. Change the graph bars to the old colour scheme. Green bar for a pass, Red for fail, and Blue for borderline.

BD30 stuck in "Video" Mode
written by ender21 , February 04, 2008

Hopefully the film mode/video mode issue can be resolved via firmware upgrade. That it's stuck in Video mode all the time *has* to be a mistake. And while Kris's review didn't note it, I'm assuming that's for DVD playback only, not BD.

PS3 benchmark
written by KrisDeering , February 04, 2008

The PS3's updated benchmark will be published very soon. And I don't think you'll be very happy with it, even with the new firmware.

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written by JEJ , February 04, 2008

We are working on a better way to present the data. The bar graphs shown in this review are just a temporary measure in order to publish the review on time.

Panny not using Sigma
written by Sergio da Silva , February 04, 2008

I think the BD30 uses the UniPhier chip. I'm not sure if it is only for Blu-ray.

LFE issue
written by Sergio da Silva , February 04, 2008

I know this was more of a benchmark review on the video site, but is Secrets aware of the LFE issue on the BD-30? That is it is -5db lower on LFE when playing PCM tracks?

Does not use the sigma chip
written by Keith Jack, Sigma Designs , February 05, 2008

This player uses the Panasonic UniPhier chip instead of Sigma Designs's chip.


Note Identity of Test
written by Wendell R. Breland , February 05, 2008

Kris

Thanks for the review. Unless I missed something your review pertains to DVD playback. The only thing I care about is Blu-ray disc performance. I suspect most that buy this player will have a similar view. Will you have a more detailed review of this players BD performance?

A suggestion: Make sure you clearly separate SD DVD, BD, DVD-A, etc. in your performance test.


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written by JEJ , February 06, 2008

We are working on a completely new way of presenting the data, and high def tests will be included. There will also be more tests that average conumers can relate to.

The "dumbing down" of America?
written by Kieran , February 06, 2008

With your addition of "more tests that average consumers can relate to" I hope you won't change your excellent and detailed testing of products that come under your scrutiny. Fine if you want to provide some "average consumer" friendly graphs or pictures, but don't underestimate your audience. I come to Secrets BECAUSE you don't have all the dumbed down (and therefore almost meaningless) data. I bet a majority of your readers come here for the same reason.

Price?
written by Ernest , February 08, 2008

How about adding the MSRP and a picture of the backside toward the top of the review?

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written by JEJ , February 08, 2008

No, we won't dumb it down, but simply add some other things that virtually everyone can understand. After all, the average consumer does not know 2-2 Cadence from a trombone. We want everyone to be able to get something out of the Benchmark reviews, not just us geeks.

480i performance?
written by Ron , February 09, 2008

Can anyone comment on this unit's 480i performance? Specifically, are there major deficiencies? Is it possible to set the output to the video material's native format? Would this make a decent transport for an outboard video processor?

BD Performance
written by ASB , February 09, 2008

I agree with Wendell how about a reveiw on the Blue-ray disk performance

high def tests...coming...
written by trin1834 , February 10, 2008

Yeah, Yeah, you’ve been promising that for what now seems like forever. I remember reading that Secrets was working on or was going to do high def tests back when the first generation of BD and HD players were released, we're still waiting.

I suspect that I am not alone, when I say, first and foremost I want to know how well the high def player plays high def material (as I already have an excellent DVD player – thanks to you, which I will continue to use to play my DVDs on).

It is good that you are letting us know how well (or how poorly) the new high def players play DVDs, but really it is a DISTANT second in importance to how good the high def playback is on these players.

Please hurry up and deliver some high def test results.


Panasonic BD30 $500 Player with know LFE Bug
written by HD_Veteran , February 10, 2008

These units are too expensive for people to put up with this kind or problem. Panansonic need to pull these units if they cannot find a fix or possible face a class action suit

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written by JEJ , February 10, 2008

On the LFE problem, is the LFE output 5 dB lower than it should be, or is there something more serious? If the LFE output is simply lower than it should be, just turn up the subwoofer volume when listening to the PCM track.

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written by JEJ , February 10, 2008

I am just as impatient as everyone else when it comes to getting the HD bench tests set up. But, this is not a simple task. We are actively working on it.

HD bench tests
written by lubmar , February 11, 2008

JEJ
when you get the "HD bench tests" ready, will you update all the HD players reviews? (XA2,P1200 ...)


"the average consumer"
written by pb , February 11, 2008

The "average" consumer doesn't know a 3-2 cadence from a trombone, as JEJ says. OTOH, the "average consumer" gets info about electronic equipment from Consumer Reports, or even more commonly from the salespeople in big-box stores. So websites like this one are for people with more interst and knowledge than the average consumer. For those of us in that category who are still learning, how about using an HTML template for test results that displays mouse-over or pop-up boxes with brief explanations of each test and what the results reveal about the viewing or listening experience that the particular test addresses.

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written by JEJ , February 11, 2008

Once a review is completed, we send the player back to the manufacturer, so we can't go back and update the reviews on older players for the HD tests. Part of the problem was that we had to wait until we had full 1080p capable displays to run the tests.

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written by JEJ , February 11, 2008

We are having a training session this weekend (2/16) for staff wanting to perform bench tests on the players. New HD testing procedures will be part of the training.

Other BD players?
written by BF , February 12, 2008

Interesting review. It is disappointing about basic DVD performance in these BD players.

I've got a Sony BDP-S500 and I'm wondering if you're going to review this unit sometime in the future? Thanks.


LFE issue
written by TC , February 16, 2008


we're talking about the LFE level on the analog output right ?


AV Video Processor
written by pwb , February 21, 2008

With the poor performances displayed by several BRay units in upconverting SD DVD, would it be possible to improve overall picture quality by passing the signal (via HDMI) thru an AV receiver with a good video processor (ie like the Onkyo 875 with HQV)?

I guess a more confusing question for my non-tech mind is - in a system with a video processor in the video player the AV receiver the TV, which processor is responsible for the quality of the final picture?


SD performance :-(
written by WS , February 22, 2008

It is disappointing this Panny is has such poor SD performance. I am still using and enjoying my RP56 until someone in the BR camp can get me a solid player.

What is more frustrating is that, based on the CES reports the BD50 will have most of the same guts as the BD30, which means there potentially is still no player on the horizon with solid BR and SD performance.

I wonder how long until Oppo comes out with their player?



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