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Panasonic DMP-BD30 Blu-ray Player - Full Review
A Secrets DVD Player Review
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Written by Kris Deering   
Thursday, 21 February 2008
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Without a doubt the biggest complaint that I’ve had from most HD players has been the overall usability and sluggish designs. Whether it is the sluggish power-on times, miserable load times, or tedius Java implementation, the Blu-ray players I’ve tested so far are definitely a step back in terms of operation and speed compared to the SD DVD players we’re used to working with. I think this is the area that manufacturers and software providers should take a big look at if they want the high def format to progress in the market. Consumers transitioning from DVD to Blu-ray are probably expecting next generation performance and speed, not slower operation and ridiculous load times for their new discs.

Luckily, Panasonic seems to have addressed this with their new design and delivers the fastest stand alone Blu-ray player to date that is nearly as fast as the Playstation 3 with navigation and disc loading.

The BD30 takes roughly 20-25 seconds to power on. Once the player is on, disc loading takes only a few seconds. This is a big step up from the designs I’ve reviewed recently, with some taking nearly twice as long. General navigation of disc features and menus is not quite as fast as the Playstation 3, but close. This includes some of the more difficult advanced profile Blu-ray discs with Java based features such as Cars, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. These discs have been notoriously bad with the recent players I’ve tested. For example I recently had the opportunity to review the new Pioneer Elite BDP-95FD, which costs nearly twice as much as the BD30. When I loaded the new (and outstanding) release of Close Encounters of the Third Kind it took over two minutes just to get to the discs menus. It went through two different types of loading screens as well.

The BD30 was almost the opposite. It never even went into the first loading menu and was half way done with the second loading menu when it appeared on screen and finished up in just a few seconds. The BD30 loaded this same disc in less than a fourth of the time of the 95FD. I saw similar performance with all of the other discs. In fact, the only discs I thought the BD30 was a bit sluggish on were Ratatouille (which is even a tad slow on the PS3) and Superbad. While this level of operability could still be improved upon, it currently represents the best performance from a stand alone Blu-ray player to date and far more in line with what consumers would probably expect as they transition from standard DVD players.

While I was impressed with BD30 operability overall, I was blown away with video and audio performance. During this review, I mated the BD30 with the new Onkyo Pro 885 Surround Sound Processor to take advantage of the advanced audio bitstream support and the Marantz VP15S1 1080p DLP projector. This player truly leaves little to be desired in terms of Blu-ray software playback.

As most of you already know, Fox has been a long time supporter of DTS. They included DTS tracks frequently on their DVD releases and have moved on to exclusive support of DTS-HD Master Audio. This has been a bit of a double edged sword for the format. DTS-HD Master Audio is a lossless audio codec and supports full 24 bit resolution, and so far, all of the releases in this format have been full resolution soundtracks. The problem is no one has offered decoding in the players like they have for the other formats. Well, that still hasn’t changed, but what we are seeing is support popping up in the new audio receivers and surround sound processors. The BD30 transmits this format in bitstream format to these new products and is one of only three players that does. Now we have to opportunity to hear these soundtracks in their full resolution as intended.

I had the opportunity to review a few DTS-HD Master Audio releases, including Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, Pathfinder, and Live Free or Die Hard. The new Die Hard film packs a state of the art lossless soundtrack that really sets it apart from the pack. The BD30 delivered the full quality Master Audio track to my Onkyo Pro 885 SSP and delivered a five star sound. The picture quality from the BD30 was also exceptional, with fine detail, depth, and contrast delivered perfectly. This is a very stylized film with amazing clarity in the image and depth of field. The 1080p24 playback from the BD30 resolved all of the intricate detail, providing one of the best Blu-ray images I’ve seen lately.

Another highlight was Disney’s recent Pixar releases on Blu-ray. The Pixar Shorts Collection, Cars, and Ratatouille all delivered the A/V experience we only dreamed of a few years ago, with picture quality that is second to none, and some of the most dynamic soundtracks imaginable. As much as I loved all three of these releases I must say that Cars represents one of the best A/V experiences I’ve seen and heard yet on any format to date. The BD30 navigated this disc far better than any other stand alone player I’ve used and delivered every ounce of the video and audio experience.

The only disc I’ve had any issue at all with during my time with the BD30 is Die Harder: Die Hard 2 from the Die Hard Collection. For some reason, this disc is authored incorrectly, and the bitstream output from the BD30 would not support the audio stream. I’ve heard reports that performance varies based on what receiver or processor you’re using, but with the Onkyo Pro 885, I was not able to get any sound in bitstream mode. Switching to internal processing took advantage of the core DTS track and playback was fine. For the record, this is a software authoring issue, but something potential owners should know about.

Conclusions

Without a doubt, the BD30 is a definite step in the right direction for Blu-ray players. It offers state of the art playback performance from Blu-ray software and piece of mind with its support of the upcoming 1.1 profile. But this player isn’t for everyone, and with its lack of advanced audio decoding support, potential customers need to know that this player requires ownership of one of the newer A/V receivers or processors to make the best of the digital output of these codecs. If you are one of those lucky consumers though, I can’t recommend this player more.

Comments (22)add comment
1080i/30fps performance
written by Ovation , February 23, 2008

Would you say that this caveat would be lessened if the display has good processing? In other words, for such an output resolution (typically concert videos, if I understand correctly), would it be a good idea to set the player's output to 1080i and let the display handle the signal processing (assuming the display has good internal processing)?

New Format
written by Mutha , February 23, 2008

Definately not a fan of this sites new format. Very labor intensive compared to the old format. Also this site is very slow to add new reviews. Used to be one of my two favorite sites, now it is one of my least favorite sites. Am I blind? What is the retail price of this player?

SD DVD Playback
written by pwb , February 23, 2008

Hi Kris

I have just acquired the Onkyo TX-SR875 and am thinking of pairing it with this Panny BD-30.
Question? If I pass the video signal of SD DVD from the Panny thru the Onkyo which has the better HQV processor, would this improve the quality of picture for SD DVD?
Thanks.


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written by JEJ , February 23, 2008

Only about 1% of readers who have contacted us say they don't like the new website design. Everyone else has said they love it. The new format is labor intensive only for us, not the readers. We are still publishing new content at a rate of about three per week. That has not changed in years. If you look at other sites you will see we have more published reviews than anyone else. The MSRP of this player is $499.95 as stated in the Benchmark review linked on page 1 of the current article. It appears your critique is without substance except perhaps for the point about your being blind.

re: New Format
written by nobirth , February 23, 2008

Not to say I agree with the tone of either Mutha or JEJ, but I do wish that the new format included an information box at the beginning of article (which I believe the old format did include). I also wasn't sure what the price of the player was and I don't think that clicking a random link in the middle of the article to find the price is intuitive, especially when half of the links are for advertisements. I usually check the beginning or end of an article for specifications, which seems pretty standard.

No complaints about the amount of articles or anything else though.


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written by JEJ , February 23, 2008

I have added the spec section to the beginning of the Full Review article, just as we have for previous articles. I thought we would have the new benchmark section set up by now and I was going to put it all in there, but we are not done yet. We did have a meeting here in Redwood City last weekend, and the new HD tests were settled upon, but it is still going to take some time to finish everything.

DTS-HD MASTER AUDIO
written by c21mark , February 23, 2008

Just picked up this player to mate wiyh my Onkyo TX-SR805. Watched Shoot 'em up in DTS-HD MASTER AUDIO and all I can say is WOW!!!!! So far I love this player and will still use my Denon DVD-2900 for SD-DVD playback anyway, that is if I can tear myself away from the amazing experience of Blue-ray and the new audio codecs. By the way love the new format of your site, find it much easier to read and looks more professional.

New Format
written by North of 49 , February 24, 2008

Just wanted to say the new format is great. The review of the panny 30 was very informative. I would like to point out that including pricing would most probably be the only misleading inclusion in your good reviews when circuit city changes prices on a daily/hourly basis, not to mention regional disparity. No good deed goes unpunished, but please keep up the great work!
I understand the BD-50 will be 2.0 compliant for about $100 more in Q2 08.


More info on 720p performance
written by Dennis Korabiak , February 24, 2008

While your articles are quite thorough on 1080p blu-ray performance, I am the owner of a 720p projector (Sharp xv-z12000 Mk2) and like many other dlp and lcd owners, we won't be trading up for a while. It would be extremely helpful if you could describe how well these players perform at 720p. Thank you,

What about the PCM over HDMI issue?
written by ender21 , February 25, 2008

Since Kris Deering frequents AVS Forum and has a great deal of experience with the great Disney Blu-Ray titles out there, I would have thought he'd mention that PCM audio over HDMI is 5dB low in the Subwoofer channel. This affects PCM audio over HDMI *only,* so other audio formats bitstreaming, and PCM over analog are unaffected. The last I checked Panasonic was "looking into the issue."

Having said that, I'm incredibly happy with my BD-30 into Integra 9.8 AVP.


PCM over HDMI issue
written by anon1 , February 25, 2008

ender21,

New firmware (v.1.6) was released today that fixes the LFE PCM over HDMI bug.


Re: PCM over HDMI issue
written by ender21 , February 25, 2008

Get out! That rocks! Thanks Mr. Anonymous!



JEJ, take it as a compliment
written by WS , February 26, 2008

Hi Johnny/Kris-

Take it as a compliment that we want more of the SD benchmarking for Blu-Ray players AND we want reviews faster. When the SD Benchmark first came out, many players were benchmarked at once. If our player was not in there, we were begging you guys to hurry up and add it.

I would like the see the tradditional SD score on these Blu-Ray (and HD DVD) benchmarks and a similar score-set on the HD performance. I am hoping you can do a score of some sort for each resolution because I have a mix of displays in my home.

Thanks!



1080i/p Question
written by dicey , February 26, 2008

So if I am understanding Kris' review correctly, the BD-30 also has the same issue that all the other currently available Blu-ray players have, i.e. they internally convert the native 1080p data on the disc into 1080i and then reconvert it back into 1080p? If this is true, then does the "1080p/i/p" process still occur if the player is set to output 1080p24?

Thanks.


"1080p/i/p" question
written by dicey , February 26, 2008

If I understand Kris' review correctly, it seems that the BD-30 also has the "1080p/i/p" issue.
If this is true, then if it is set to output 1080p24, does the "1080p/i/p" process still occur or does it simply stream the 1080p24 data of the disc without converting it?


720p
written by Kieran , February 26, 2008

I'd also like to see all BRD player reviews have a section on 720p performance. I'd say more people out there with HD displays have 720p displays than 1080p displays (actually a big chunk probably have what I have - a 768p x 1365 plasma).

It would be very helpful to those of us with


Printable View for Articles
written by LM , February 27, 2008

I often want to save an article or review, but can't find a printable view feature on your site. Am I just not seeing it? I'm thinking of the ability to view & print the entire article withouth ads and without having to navigate to each page separately, then printing each page separately.

720p
written by lubmar , February 27, 2008

another 720p request, please.


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written by JEJ , February 27, 2008

Yes, all you have to do is go to the top of the first page of the article, place your mouse cursor at the left end of the first letter in the title (in this case, to the left of the P in Panasonic), then hold the left button of the mouse down and drag the mouse to the bottom right corner of the text on that page. Then release the mouse button. That will highlight the text and graphics of the article but not the advertisements or other material. Then click (ctrl) (c). That copies the hightlighted text and photos. Go to MS Word, click (ctrl) (v) , which pastes the copied information into the window. Go back to the article and go to the second page, do the same thing, and copy it at the end of the first set of information in the MS Word window. Do that for page 3, and then save the MS Word file as a document. You can print it from there.

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written by Mark , February 27, 2008

I'd also like to request that future Secrets Reviews include info on how players perform at scaling to 720P. How accurately players scale to different resolutions is relevant info to many readers and it's a shame to see reviewers not include this info in their reviews.

Secrets is not alone in it's failure to provide this info. For example, in the latest issue of Widescreen Review, I was a bit disappointed to see an article on the A35 HD DVD player also fail to include any info regarding this.

For sites that have some of the most indepth reviews on player performance, including this pertinent info would be most welcome indeed.



Panasonic DMP-BD30
written by ladykeybird , March 08, 2008

Is this player compatible with an Onkyo TX-SR804 receiver?

Uncompressed LPCM
written by This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , April 04, 2008

Still confused as to whether the BD-30k takes the full uncompressed LPCM (when there is such a track) decodes it fully and passes each channel on in the 5.1 analog output that then goes into my 6 year old Denon 5.1 analog input and passes through directly to the speakers? If so, how about the powered subwoofer which has a default of EXT In of a 15DB - should this be put back to 0DB for these LPCM tracks???


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