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Microsoft Zune 80GB Portable Music Player
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Microsoft Zune 80GB Portable Music Player A Secrets MP3 Player Review |
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| Written by Paul Taatjes | ||||
| Tuesday, 29 January 2008 | ||||
Page 2 of 2 The Sound
Being involved with hi-fi home audio equipment, with exposure to higher-end sound, makes sound quality a high priority for me. I realize the weakness in some equipment, and the varied environments in which a portable is used, means an equalizer can be a desirable feature. While most hi-fi types frown on equalization due to processing artifacts like phase errors, I am a bit more receptive. Sometimes phase errors are more than offset when an environment you are in has big problems you can't address. Where am I going with this? Well, the Zune 80 GB is the first digital player I have owned without an EQ of any type. Not even a chintzy bass boost function. A far cry from the five band parametric EQ of my Rio Karma or even the five band user controlled EQ of my Creative Zen Vision: M. On both those devices I was a habitual EQ user to compensate for a distinct lack of bass. Normally I would chalk this up to the usual PR drivel, but in this case the proof is in the results. My former players sound absolutely collapsed compared with the wide soundstage thrown by the Zune. What I thought was an artifact of using earphones (Shure E4s), the "in your head" sound, was gone, replaced by a natural large soundstage with distinct separation of all instruments. The sound is very balanced, and the bass is stronger than other players I have used without an EQ. Basically, it sounds just right, right out of the box.
For some reason, many users like a heavy emphasis on bass, and if that is the case, you may be disappointed. Not because it is lacking (it is better than others without an EQ), but because there is no option currently to dial it up.
To be honest, my reason to start looking beyond my 30 GB Creative Zen Vision: M was two-fold. First, I just needed more drive space. While 30 GB seems like it should be sufficient, I have the vast majority of my music at 256 and 320 kbps, meaning I don't get a lot of mileage out of the space I have. Secondly, at least as important to me was video playback. While the Zen could play back video, the screen was only 2.5". The Zune 80 GB sports a 3.2" screen, not far off from the iPod Touch's 3.5" screen. This make a huge difference in the watchability of video content.
What good is a PMP if it can't play the files you have? Codec support is an important aspect of these players in my opinion. So what does the Zune support? This was one of the easiest reviews I have ever written. The pros and cons of the Zune 80 GB are very cut and dry: large glass screen, large 80 GB storage, stellar interface, amazing sound quality, integrated podcast subscriptions, wifi, video output, all big positives. The overly simple Zune software for your PC is a necessary aspect to allow for the new features. The lack of a "real" on/off control, no EQ, and no delete on the fly, keep it from perfection. That said, the Zune 80 GB has almost the perfect balance for me, and this player is very highly recommended (as long as you own a PC connected to the Internet). As a side note, Microsoft has shown very good support, with two updates to the firmware during the first month, and continuing to support the 30 GB model by adding many of the new features seen on the 80 GB version. This gives the buyer confidence they won't be left in the dust when the next model arrives. Comments (9)
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written by Ryan O'Rourke , February 04, 2008 I will not purchase this player unless they add FLAC support. FLAC support
written by Paul Taatjes , February 05, 2008 It is too bad FLAC is not supported. This player has excellent sound quality and the large 80GB size would make it an excellent candidate. At least WMA lossless is supported but being forced to reencode everything to another format for those with large FLAC collections is a long ways from ideal. HD Video Content
written by Jonathan Doan , February 08, 2008 Does the Zune 80G work to put HD content onto your TV, such as High Def trailers downloaded from the internet? I guess that, according to the specs presented here, the best res you can get would be 720p... What resolution does WMV-HD and H.264 HD support? HD Video Content
written by Paul Taatjes , February 09, 2008 Everything I see points to the Zune not supporting HD (other than through transcode at time of sync). I don't have a lot of WMV-HD laying around but a couple HD podcasts in that format were transcoded when they were loaded on to the device. It seems the best it will do is 480p, 30 frames per second. (technically a ATSC rez). (or 576p/25) What about cable interface direct to car audio system?
written by PixieGirl , March 28, 2008 So does the Zune 80 hook directly into an Ipod compatible car audio system?I was thinking of replacing my stock stereo with a Sony CDX-GT820IP and was wondering if the direct cable connection for a Zune work well? I have her horror stories about the FM wireless interface, so I'm leaning towards a cable interface, but most stereos only mention Ipod intrface... ...
written by PixieGirl , March 28, 2008 So does the Zune 80 hook directly into an Ipod compatible car audio system?I was thinking of replacing my stock stereo with a Sony CDX-GT820IP and was wondering if the direct cable connection for a Zune work well? I have her horror stories about the FM wireless interface, so I'm leaning towards a cable interface, but most stereos only mention Ipod intrface... Returning my ZUNE 80GB today !
written by dmxuser from Miami , April 13, 2008 I received this unit as a birthday present and although I was blown away by all the great features this unit has the sound quality did not. I am a Sales Manager for a company that supplies sound, lighting, video and special effects the the entertainment industry. Having access to the best products in the world for use within our industry I decided to AB test the Zune against the 160GB IPOD with identical music I loaded on both units. After performing this test with the same and then different earbuds I have come to the conclusion that their is no comparison. Feature wise the ZUNE hands down is a superior product to the IPOD but the sound quality in my opinion and in that of many of my peers is extremely poor. Although we have not had the time to connect test equipment to the output of both units I am sure the there is a huge difference. The quality of sound is good but the output of the device is very weak and can not provide the crisp full sound that the IPOD has. I am surprised that so many professionals in the sound field are content with this device being that the difference between the two is night and day. For me I will be anxiously waiting for a new model with hopefully some hardware improvements that will address the EQ and increased output power. Sorry, Zune sounds better than IPOD
written by GDR Dallas , August 02, 2008 I have a Zune 30, IPod Classic 160, and a Zune 80. I loaded with identical music and used the same earphones to switch back and forth. The Zune 30 with the EQ produced very clean low end bass I had not heard ever in headphones. I am using Sure in the ear types. The Zune 80 had slightly less bass, but still more bass than the IPod. When I tried the IPod’s EQ to try and boost the bass, I then got distortion. I looked on line and found many similar complaints. I downloaded a program to re-write the output levels so that it would not distort, but still no bass like the Zune 30. I have decided to dump my IPod on EBay and stay with the Zune. What a pain to have to always convert my new music so it will sound okay on the IPod. My son's have also replaced their IPod Classic 80 and Nano with Zune 80's, so I will place all three up for sale. Clearly a case of Microsoft Windows in reverse...just because everyone has one does not mean it is the best one out there. Zune - Irritating Limited Farce
written by Algernon Forbisher , August 04, 2008 Sound: inferior sound quality through top line Grado phones; Video: it's a video player that doesn't support Divx/Xvid?? - what are your video downloads encoded in? For an extra $40 you can go BUY extra (non-microsoft)software that, at least for me doesn't work. Beware.(Cucusoft - I'm almost starting to think it's a scam. I've stopped the credit card payment.) Software: the Zune PC software, which you are forced to use, forget Winamp, is literally fall-asleep-at-the-screen slow,(bring coffee); apparently doesn't support Gracenote tagging; fails to recognize many of my MP3 files: and after a weekend of fighting with it, I've figured out what it's doing, sort of -- just in time for the decision to return the dopey thing anyway. Give BignHard a few more years of internal bickering to figure this one out properly. Write comment
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