Comments on: Daily Blog - Ross Jones - March 7, 2008: IS THERE SUCH A THING AS TOO MANY SUBWOOFERS? http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/ Secrets of Home Theater and Hi Fi Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:38:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: ovation http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-338 ovation Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:49:55 +0000 http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-338 That's fine (and it's why I don't claim the "status" of "basshead" ;) ). My PV900 gives me way more bass than any other setup I've ever had and it is enough to rattle loose objects in the room, if I want (as it has with some movies). My comment was not intended to denigrate those who choose to have more, but rather to explain why "more bass" is not one of MY priorities Honestly, the only time I miss the extra bass is with certain classical organ pieces that I listen to occasionally--but even then, I used to listen to those pieces with speakers that had excellent sound, but limited lower bass (down to about 50 hz). Now, I get reasonably flat (with the EQ and traps) response to 25-27hz and usable bass to 21-22hz (though the tones I've tried below that are only noticeable when played individually--hence the missing bass for organ music) and that is a vast improvement over my old 2 channel system. The extra few hz, on a cost/benefit basis, are not a must for me. Others are free to make their own choices. That’s fine (and it’s why I don’t claim the “status” of “basshead” ;) ). My PV900 gives me way more bass than any other setup I’ve ever had and it is enough to rattle loose objects in the room, if I want (as it has with some movies). My comment was not intended to denigrate those who choose to have more, but rather to explain why “more bass” is not one of MY priorities Honestly, the only time I miss the extra bass is with certain classical organ pieces that I listen to occasionally–but even then, I used to listen to those pieces with speakers that had excellent sound, but limited lower bass (down to about 50 hz). Now, I get reasonably flat (with the EQ and traps) response to 25-27hz and usable bass to 21-22hz (though the tones I’ve tried below that are only noticeable when played individually–hence the missing bass for organ music) and that is a vast improvement over my old 2 channel system. The extra few hz, on a cost/benefit basis, are not a must for me. Others are free to make their own choices.

]]> By: Ross Jones http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-334 Ross Jones Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:26:35 +0000 http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-334 Even in smaller rooms, multiple subs are valuable to handle room modes, and provide higher output without pushing the amps (as a general rule, the second sub adds about 3 dB). Even in smaller rooms, multiple subs are valuable to handle room modes, and provide higher output without pushing the amps (as a general rule, the second sub adds about 3 dB).

]]> By: Tyler http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-332 Tyler Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:19:36 +0000 http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-332 Well, there is "sufficient" and then there is headroom above reference levels with any soundtrack. Your single PV900 cannot reproduce the full content of some modern soundtracks, even at less than reference levels. Some people aren't satisfied with "sufficient". :-D Well, there is “sufficient” and then there is headroom above reference levels with any soundtrack. Your single PV900 cannot reproduce the full content of some modern soundtracks, even at less than reference levels. Some people aren’t satisfied with “sufficient”. :-D

]]> By: ovation http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-323 ovation Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:52:11 +0000 http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-323 I don't recall it exactly, but the gist of my post was that I must not be a "basshead" as I've never felt the slightest need to add a second (never mind another more) sub or even upgrade the one I have. I've made some bass traps, I use the R-DES I won from the Secrets contest and with that, I'm quite content with my modest Boston Acoustics PV900 sub. I do appreciate having a sub for 2 channel music (and will have one in my next 2 channel system--in the planning stages for now) as I think the freedom to decouple bass from the mains, thus allowing optimal placement for imaging and bass response (almost impossible with just two speakers), is the greatest musical benefit of a sub. As for movies, my room is small (11.5 x 15 with a 11.5 x 7 storage area behind a curtain) and the one sub does a more than sufficient job. I've read about how 2 is better than one, 4 are better than two and so on but I believe for this to be practical, one either is using small subs (much smaller than mine) in my sized room OR one has a much bigger room. For the latter, additional subs make sense. I don’t recall it exactly, but the gist of my post was that I must not be a “basshead” as I’ve never felt the slightest need to add a second (never mind another more) sub or even upgrade the one I have. I’ve made some bass traps, I use the R-DES I won from the Secrets contest and with that, I’m quite content with my modest Boston Acoustics PV900 sub. I do appreciate having a sub for 2 channel music (and will have one in my next 2 channel system–in the planning stages for now) as I think the freedom to decouple bass from the mains, thus allowing optimal placement for imaging and bass response (almost impossible with just two speakers), is the greatest musical benefit of a sub. As for movies, my room is small (11.5 x 15 with a 11.5 x 7 storage area behind a curtain) and the one sub does a more than sufficient job.

I’ve read about how 2 is better than one, 4 are better than two and so on but I believe for this to be practical, one either is using small subs (much smaller than mine) in my sized room OR one has a much bigger room. For the latter, additional subs make sense.

]]> By: John Johnson http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-317 John Johnson Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:40:51 +0000 http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-317 I had to reformat Ross' blog, and your post got deleted. Please repost it. I had to reformat Ross’ blog, and your post got deleted. Please repost it.

]]> By: ovation http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-314 ovation Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:32:35 +0000 http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blog/2008/03/07/daily-blog-ross-jones-march-7-2008-is-there-such-a-thing-as-too-many-subwoofers/#comment-314 What happened to the previous version of this blog (and my comment to it)? Just curious. What happened to the previous version of this blog (and my comment to it)? Just curious.

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